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		<title>By: janu</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/29/top-10-ways-to-reduce-your-co2-emissions-footprint/#comment-134228</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[janu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i liked this very much.it is effiecient.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i liked this very much.it is effiecient.</p>
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		<title>By: Cam</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 09:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey this is a superb way i think so by not only planting trees but making more use of these planted trees wold be better, see friends if we can make the trees release oxygen at night and absorb carbon dioxide it would be more better as it happens in day. we can provide artificial light to it as green or red as it has the highest wavelength the process would be more better and the oxygen demand would also be met  what do you think?????????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey this is a superb way i think so by not only planting trees but making more use of these planted trees wold be better, see friends if we can make the trees release oxygen at night and absorb carbon dioxide it would be more better as it happens in day. we can provide artificial light to it as green or red as it has the highest wavelength the process would be more better and the oxygen demand would also be met  what do you think?????????</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Harney</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/29/top-10-ways-to-reduce-your-co2-emissions-footprint/#comment-38445</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean Harney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have an &#039;Ariston&#039; front loader (10 years old) which has hot and cold inlet pipes.  I just turn up the temperature to 55 degrees c  on my &#039;instant gas water heater&#039; when I need to do a hot wash.  Then, once the machine has filled with hot water, turn off the hot tap and turn on the cold tap for the rinses.  Some wash loads come cleaner with a hot wash.  My washing machine water is run out onto our front lawn and it is surviving quite well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have an &#8216;Ariston&#8217; front loader (10 years old) which has hot and cold inlet pipes.  I just turn up the temperature to 55 degrees c  on my &#8216;instant gas water heater&#8217; when I need to do a hot wash.  Then, once the machine has filled with hot water, turn off the hot tap and turn on the cold tap for the rinses.  Some wash loads come cleaner with a hot wash.  My washing machine water is run out onto our front lawn and it is surviving quite well.</p>
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		<title>By: What Is A Carbon Footprint? &#124; Green Web Hosting</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/29/top-10-ways-to-reduce-your-co2-emissions-footprint/#comment-13585</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What Is A Carbon Footprint? &#124; Green Web Hosting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 20:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Brave New Climate offers 10 more well thought out ways to go green [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/29/top-10-ways-to-reduce-your-co2-emissions-footprint/#comment-1744</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey
I recon someone should make a reservior that you can burry in you driveway. it should hold your suridge for a sufficient period that it collects methane gas, then the effluent continues to suridge, and the gas is stripped of its sulphur dioxide then pumped into the home for stove and heating.
GOLD
Cheers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey<br />
I recon someone should make a reservior that you can burry in you driveway. it should hold your suridge for a sufficient period that it collects methane gas, then the effluent continues to suridge, and the gas is stripped of its sulphur dioxide then pumped into the home for stove and heating.<br />
GOLD<br />
Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Roberts</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/29/top-10-ways-to-reduce-your-co2-emissions-footprint/#comment-823</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hank Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Insulation
Solar hot water

Those were the biggest two immediate payback carbon saving changes on a chart I saw recently.

&gt; turn-up the ventilation when the temperature is low at night and then close-off the house when it’s hot during the day. 

I grew up with that tactic in the US South and it worked fine there before air conditioning was common.  Works well.
&quot;Whole house fan&quot; is the term we used.

We now accomplish something similar by just forcing air through our attic space on hot days with a simple little computer box fan, the kind in most desktop PCs of a certain age, and it works surprisingly well.  That&#039;s  basically a way of faking what we need to accomplish next time we replace the roof by putting in proper eave and peak vents so the hot air goes away by convection.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insulation<br />
Solar hot water</p>
<p>Those were the biggest two immediate payback carbon saving changes on a chart I saw recently.</p>
<p>&gt; turn-up the ventilation when the temperature is low at night and then close-off the house when it’s hot during the day. </p>
<p>I grew up with that tactic in the US South and it worked fine there before air conditioning was common.  Works well.<br />
&#8220;Whole house fan&#8221; is the term we used.</p>
<p>We now accomplish something similar by just forcing air through our attic space on hot days with a simple little computer box fan, the kind in most desktop PCs of a certain age, and it works surprisingly well.  That&#8217;s  basically a way of faking what we need to accomplish next time we replace the roof by putting in proper eave and peak vents so the hot air goes away by convection.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/29/top-10-ways-to-reduce-your-co2-emissions-footprint/#comment-762</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris O'Neill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;or turn on the air conditioner when we could open the window and turn on a fan&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think there&#039;s a lot of potential for using ventilation to minimize the need for air-conditioning in places with varying temperatures like Melbourne. Melbourne often has hot days and substantially lower temperatures at night so the logical thing to do is to turn-up the ventilation when the temperature is low at night and then close-off the house when it&#039;s hot during the day. I&#039;ve found that to do this most effectively requires exhaust fans of much greater capacity than the usual ceiling exhaust fans and sometimes requires running fans all night. I&#039;d guess that very few people organize ventilation to this degree. It&#039;s interesting that sometimes in Melbourne, the best strategy is to ventilate the house at night so that it&#039;s quite cool in the morning to avoid becoming too hot in the late afternoon, e.g. if the minimum and maximum forecasts are 15 degrees and 35 degrees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>or turn on the air conditioner when we could open the window and turn on a fan</p></blockquote>
<p>I think there&#8217;s a lot of potential for using ventilation to minimize the need for air-conditioning in places with varying temperatures like Melbourne. Melbourne often has hot days and substantially lower temperatures at night so the logical thing to do is to turn-up the ventilation when the temperature is low at night and then close-off the house when it&#8217;s hot during the day. I&#8217;ve found that to do this most effectively requires exhaust fans of much greater capacity than the usual ceiling exhaust fans and sometimes requires running fans all night. I&#8217;d guess that very few people organize ventilation to this degree. It&#8217;s interesting that sometimes in Melbourne, the best strategy is to ventilate the house at night so that it&#8217;s quite cool in the morning to avoid becoming too hot in the late afternoon, e.g. if the minimum and maximum forecasts are 15 degrees and 35 degrees.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/29/top-10-ways-to-reduce-your-co2-emissions-footprint/#comment-759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris O'Neill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Can I direct you to http://www.concerneedcitizensofwashingmachinedesign.com/blog&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Was that set up in response to http://www.wewontgiveyoucontrolofyourwashingmachinesogetlost.com/blog ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Can I direct you to <a href="http://www.concerneedcitizensofwashingmachinedesign.com/blog" rel="nofollow">http://www.concerneedcitizensofwashingmachinedesign.com/blog</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Was that set up in response to <a href="http://www.wewontgiveyoucontrolofyourwashingmachinesogetlost.com/blog" rel="nofollow">http://www.wewontgiveyoucontrolofyourwashingmachinesogetlost.com/blog</a> ?</p>
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		<title>By: MattB</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/29/top-10-ways-to-reduce-your-co2-emissions-footprint/#comment-756</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MattB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 04:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Move somewhere warmer? ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Move somewhere warmer? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/29/top-10-ways-to-reduce-your-co2-emissions-footprint/#comment-753</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris O'Neill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;My front loader would be half full of cold water before anything hot came out of the tap anyway.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sounds like your supply pipe is so long you&#039;re better off not using a hot water system at all. For any hot water needs you have you&#039;d be better off just using the kettle.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d have thought most who cared would just do cold washes all the time and use a cold eco friendly powder regardless.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps not so great with a water temperature of 10 degrees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My front loader would be half full of cold water before anything hot came out of the tap anyway.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sounds like your supply pipe is so long you&#8217;re better off not using a hot water system at all. For any hot water needs you have you&#8217;d be better off just using the kettle.</p>
<blockquote><p>I’d have thought most who cared would just do cold washes all the time and use a cold eco friendly powder regardless.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps not so great with a water temperature of 10 degrees.</p>
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		<title>By: MattB</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/29/top-10-ways-to-reduce-your-co2-emissions-footprint/#comment-744</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MattB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My front loader would be half full of cold water before anything hot came out of the tap anyway.  

I&#039;d have thought most who cared would just do cold washes all the time and use a cold eco friendly powder regardless.  The rare occasion you&#039;d actually need to use hot water would amount to such a tiny amount of CO2 I just don&#039;t see it as a core enough issue to worry about on this blog.

I&#039;ve got two kids under 3 and use cloth nappies and don;t even use hot washes on them!

Can I direct you to www.concerneedcitizensofwashingmachinedesign.com/blog

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My front loader would be half full of cold water before anything hot came out of the tap anyway.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d have thought most who cared would just do cold washes all the time and use a cold eco friendly powder regardless.  The rare occasion you&#8217;d actually need to use hot water would amount to such a tiny amount of CO2 I just don&#8217;t see it as a core enough issue to worry about on this blog.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got two kids under 3 and use cloth nappies and don;t even use hot washes on them!</p>
<p>Can I direct you to <a href="http://www.concerneedcitizensofwashingmachinedesign.com/blog" rel="nofollow">http://www.concerneedcitizensofwashingmachinedesign.com/blog</a></p>
<p>;)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/29/top-10-ways-to-reduce-your-co2-emissions-footprint/#comment-737</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris O'Neill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;We have a Bosch front loader which is pretty good too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The 10 kg Bosch front loader that I know of only has a cold water inlet and although it is very efficient with water and thus as efficient as it could be while electrically heating the water, it is nowhere near as carbon efficient as it could be if you could feed it hot water from a low-carbon-emitting source.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We have a Bosch front loader which is pretty good too.</p></blockquote>
<p>The 10 kg Bosch front loader that I know of only has a cold water inlet and although it is very efficient with water and thus as efficient as it could be while electrically heating the water, it is nowhere near as carbon efficient as it could be if you could feed it hot water from a low-carbon-emitting source.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/29/top-10-ways-to-reduce-your-co2-emissions-footprint/#comment-736</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris O'Neill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;40*C - yes the savings associated with our population being wiped out from water borne diseases would certainly put a dent in greenhouse emissions that is for sure.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not many people sterilize their cold water supply so I wouldn&#039;t expect that&#039;s the purpose of having really hot water. And it&#039;s pretty difficult for micro-organisms to multiply unless they have a food source which city water supplies normally don&#039;t provide. If you&#039;re really worried you could avoid drinking the hot water.

&lt;blockquote&gt;My front loader (LG) takes cold inputs for a normal cold wash. They do exist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It cuts down the choice a little but in any case, if you want a wash temperature any higher than the cold inlet then you&#039;re stuck with electric heating of the cold inlet water.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>40*C &#8211; yes the savings associated with our population being wiped out from water borne diseases would certainly put a dent in greenhouse emissions that is for sure.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not many people sterilize their cold water supply so I wouldn&#8217;t expect that&#8217;s the purpose of having really hot water. And it&#8217;s pretty difficult for micro-organisms to multiply unless they have a food source which city water supplies normally don&#8217;t provide. If you&#8217;re really worried you could avoid drinking the hot water.</p>
<blockquote><p>My front loader (LG) takes cold inputs for a normal cold wash. They do exist.</p></blockquote>
<p>It cuts down the choice a little but in any case, if you want a wash temperature any higher than the cold inlet then you&#8217;re stuck with electric heating of the cold inlet water.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Elaurant</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/29/top-10-ways-to-reduce-your-co2-emissions-footprint/#comment-733</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Elaurant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris

We have a Bosch front loader which is pretty good too.  However I would give a qualified agreement with your comment on washign machines - I don&#039;t know if there is one that meets your requirements and is reasonably priced.  You seem to pay more for being green in many respects, not all of which appear justified by the resources requird for the product.

I&#039;d also like to clarify 9 - buy local.  While I agree with the food miles principle, transport modes vary greatly by their oil usage.  Sea and rail freight use less than a tenth of the oil per tonne-km that trucks use.  Thus produce shipped from NZ may have created less emissions than something trucked from remote parts of NSW or QLD.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris</p>
<p>We have a Bosch front loader which is pretty good too.  However I would give a qualified agreement with your comment on washign machines &#8211; I don&#8217;t know if there is one that meets your requirements and is reasonably priced.  You seem to pay more for being green in many respects, not all of which appear justified by the resources requird for the product.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to clarify 9 &#8211; buy local.  While I agree with the food miles principle, transport modes vary greatly by their oil usage.  Sea and rail freight use less than a tenth of the oil per tonne-km that trucks use.  Thus produce shipped from NZ may have created less emissions than something trucked from remote parts of NSW or QLD.</p>
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		<title>By: MattB</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/29/top-10-ways-to-reduce-your-co2-emissions-footprint/#comment-729</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MattB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[40*C - yes the savings associated with our population being wiped out from water borne diseases would certainly put a dent in greenhouse emissions that is for sure.

My front loader (LG) takes cold inputs for a normal cold wash.  They do exist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>40*C &#8211; yes the savings associated with our population being wiped out from water borne diseases would certainly put a dent in greenhouse emissions that is for sure.</p>
<p>My front loader (LG) takes cold inputs for a normal cold wash.  They do exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/29/top-10-ways-to-reduce-your-co2-emissions-footprint/#comment-727</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris O'Neill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Buy energy and water efficient appliances. ... washing machines&lt;/blockquote&gt;

One of my pet peeves about washing machines is that if you want one that is both carbon and water efficient and not rough on clothes then there is no such washing machine available in Australia. The problem with all front-loading washing machines available is that they don&#039;t allow you to use significant amounts of externally-heated water for a warm wash or even allow a normal cold wash. They use electricity to heat up cold water after the clothes are wet. So if you have gas or solar-heated hot water available then you can use little, if any, of this hot water in these washing machines. The washing machine companies make the excuse that if they let you put hot water onto the clothes then it might set stains in them. And being paternalistic they don&#039;t want to allow us to have the choice.

Until the washing machine companies improve this situation and give people a choice, there is still a long way to go in reducing carbon emissions.

BTW, I made my own smart-arse solution to this problem by feeding my hot and cold water hoses into a tee-junction and taking the output to the cold-water inlet of my washing machine. I turn on the hot water (40 degrees C max) for the washing machine to use at the beginning of the wash and then switch to cold water before the rinse starts. I then turn it back to hot water after the machine finishes, ready for the next wash.

BTW2, I suspect that if everyone in Australia turned their hot water supply down to 40 degrees C, there would be a significant reduction in Australia&#039;s CO2 emissions (along with a significant saving in energy cost).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Buy energy and water efficient appliances. &#8230; washing machines</p></blockquote>
<p>One of my pet peeves about washing machines is that if you want one that is both carbon and water efficient and not rough on clothes then there is no such washing machine available in Australia. The problem with all front-loading washing machines available is that they don&#8217;t allow you to use significant amounts of externally-heated water for a warm wash or even allow a normal cold wash. They use electricity to heat up cold water after the clothes are wet. So if you have gas or solar-heated hot water available then you can use little, if any, of this hot water in these washing machines. The washing machine companies make the excuse that if they let you put hot water onto the clothes then it might set stains in them. And being paternalistic they don&#8217;t want to allow us to have the choice.</p>
<p>Until the washing machine companies improve this situation and give people a choice, there is still a long way to go in reducing carbon emissions.</p>
<p>BTW, I made my own smart-arse solution to this problem by feeding my hot and cold water hoses into a tee-junction and taking the output to the cold-water inlet of my washing machine. I turn on the hot water (40 degrees C max) for the washing machine to use at the beginning of the wash and then switch to cold water before the rinse starts. I then turn it back to hot water after the machine finishes, ready for the next wash.</p>
<p>BTW2, I suspect that if everyone in Australia turned their hot water supply down to 40 degrees C, there would be a significant reduction in Australia&#8217;s CO2 emissions (along with a significant saving in energy cost).</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff Russell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most discussions about efficiency revolve around fairly small percentages. For example chicken farmers add enzymes to chicken
feed to increase the energy extracted by chickens by a percent or
two. Likewise people are told to keep their tires inflated to the
correct pressure to save a few percent of fuel.

The greenhouse warming difference between animal and plant foods 
are measured in factors rather than percents. The paper that 
Barry and I did in Australasian science last year 
estimates beef creates 317 times more warming than wheat, with 
pig meat coming in at 30 times more warming and chicken at about 
4 times more warming. 

What about protein? Nobody will change their diet if it puts their
health at risk. The recent Eureka prize awarded to Prof. Stephen Simpson has fuelled the idea that low protein diets cause obesity. 
His work is supposed to have &quot;revolutionised our understanding of
obesity&quot;. The European Prospective Investigation of Cancer has 
huge cohorts totalling 500,000 people in various countries. 
The &quot;health conscious&quot; cohort (about 66,000 people in the 
UK) consumes the lowest protein percent of any of the 
cohorts (pers. comm with researchers, publication soon, the rest 
of this paragraph is published data), has the lowest rate of 
obesity, has 
about half the rate of mortality from all major diseases  as the UK average. Its meat eaters consume an average of about 20g per day of meat including about 7g of red meat (women even less). 
Its vegetarians consume no meat. Most of its members (80%) eat no fish and about half the dairy products of the normal UK population.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most discussions about efficiency revolve around fairly small percentages. For example chicken farmers add enzymes to chicken<br />
feed to increase the energy extracted by chickens by a percent or<br />
two. Likewise people are told to keep their tires inflated to the<br />
correct pressure to save a few percent of fuel.</p>
<p>The greenhouse warming difference between animal and plant foods<br />
are measured in factors rather than percents. The paper that<br />
Barry and I did in Australasian science last year<br />
estimates beef creates 317 times more warming than wheat, with<br />
pig meat coming in at 30 times more warming and chicken at about<br />
4 times more warming. </p>
<p>What about protein? Nobody will change their diet if it puts their<br />
health at risk. The recent Eureka prize awarded to Prof. Stephen Simpson has fuelled the idea that low protein diets cause obesity.<br />
His work is supposed to have &#8220;revolutionised our understanding of<br />
obesity&#8221;. The European Prospective Investigation of Cancer has<br />
huge cohorts totalling 500,000 people in various countries.<br />
The &#8220;health conscious&#8221; cohort (about 66,000 people in the<br />
UK) consumes the lowest protein percent of any of the<br />
cohorts (pers. comm with researchers, publication soon, the rest<br />
of this paragraph is published data), has the lowest rate of<br />
obesity, has<br />
about half the rate of mortality from all major diseases  as the UK average. Its meat eaters consume an average of about 20g per day of meat including about 7g of red meat (women even less).<br />
Its vegetarians consume no meat. Most of its members (80%) eat no fish and about half the dairy products of the normal UK population.</p>
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		<title>By: John Armour</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/29/top-10-ways-to-reduce-your-co2-emissions-footprint/#comment-689</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Armour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If somebody could give me a good argument why the aluminium smelters should have their electricity subsidised by retail consumers I might be tempted to buy green energy.

When the smelters are forced to pay a more realistic price for their energy I might think about it.

No argument with any of the other strategies suggested for helping get emissions down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If somebody could give me a good argument why the aluminium smelters should have their electricity subsidised by retail consumers I might be tempted to buy green energy.</p>
<p>When the smelters are forced to pay a more realistic price for their energy I might think about it.</p>
<p>No argument with any of the other strategies suggested for helping get emissions down.</p>
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