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		<title>By: The science behind a climate change headline &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-34608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The science behind a climate change headline &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Quite a diverse field and I’ve not listed many sub-disciplines &#8230;  [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Thinking critically about sustainable energy (TCASE) 1: Prologue &#171; BraveNewClimate.com</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-28628</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thinking critically about sustainable energy (TCASE) 1: Prologue &#171; BraveNewClimate.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] scientific training and subsequent research career has, in various ways, involved the use of &#8217;systems models&#8216;. My published works have [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Climate change Deniers are NOT from Mars &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-27114</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Climate change Deniers are NOT from Mars &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] logic: Tens of thousands of studies and an unbelievable mountain of evidence across many disciplines is &#8220;just a theory.&#8221; A supposition from two data points and a computer model is [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Ben&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Which is worse - the stupid, the arrogance, or the indifference?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Which is worse - the stupid, the arrogance, or the indifference?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 05:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Arrogance This is not to say that people who don&#8217;t have degrees in a climate related field can&#8217;t understand or comment on the science. But it does highlight the unabashed arrogance of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Arrogance This is not to say that people who don&#8217;t have degrees in a climate related field can&#8217;t understand or comment on the science. But it does highlight the unabashed arrogance of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Calls of urgency from climate scientists &#171; BraveNewClimate.com</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-4061</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Calls of urgency from climate scientists &#171; BraveNewClimate.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the science of climate change (physical basis, impacts and adaptation, mitigation) &#8212; from any discipline within the broad field of climate science &#8212; plesase post them below. Indeed, this could end up being a useful compilation of [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Mene, Mene, Tekel u-Pharsin: Verse 1 &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-3328</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mene, Mene, Tekel u-Pharsin: Verse 1 &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is far from complete&#8230;&#8221; Keeping in mind that the basis of climate science spans many fields and disciplines, so we are talking about far more than climate [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: It's all in the numbers... - Debate Politics Forums</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] detailing the interrelationships between the different scientific paradigms (climate change science  isn&#039;t a single field).      [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: The scope and scale of climate science &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-2924</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The scope and scale of climate science &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Student Guide. As you will see the evidence for climate change comes from thousands of studies across many disciplines. Below is the table of contents for Section 3 of the Guide. 3. Empirical Study of the Climate 3.1. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: The $500,000 Climate Carny Scam &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-2229</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The $500,000 Climate Carny Scam &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] be the work of a single individual (&#8221;the original work of an entrant&#8221;), which given the multiple disciplines involved in climate science this pretty much rules out all humans and most hyper-intelligent silcon [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Climate Change Deniers: &#8220;But They Are Scientists!&#8221; &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-1653</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Climate Change Deniers: &#8220;But They Are Scientists!&#8221; &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the first question is whether they are even in a relevant field. If you check the Denier lists you find many aren&#8217;t. A more important question is whether [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: beginning of science</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-1513</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beginning of science]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of time before questions are asked about whether they are qualified to express an informed opinion.http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/UPI NewsTrack Health and Science News - United Press InternationalThe viral DNA sections are [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of time before questions are asked about whether they are qualified to express an informed opinion.<a href="http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/UPI" rel="nofollow">http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/UPI</a> NewsTrack Health and Science News &#8211; United Press InternationalThe viral DNA sections are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Nonsense of Paul Johnson: The Dunning-Kruger Effect on Display &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Nonsense of Paul Johnson: The Dunning-Kruger Effect on Display &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is the most heuristic, rational, and parsimonious explanation of a vast amount of data coming from many fields and thousands of studies, each of which worked with testable hypotheses sensu Popper and qualify as [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: John Mashey</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-890</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mashey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 06:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suppose this should have been part of &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/08/john_mashey_on_how_to_learn_ab.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to learn about science&lt;/a&gt;, but it was already long.  The following doesn&#039;t depend on for-pay databases, nor on someone&#039;s CV, nor on what they (or anyone else) says about them.

GOOGLE SCHOLAR can more useful than arguing about universities, when assessing a researcher whose name is decently Googleable.  

1) Go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://scholar.google.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google Scholar&lt;/a&gt;.

2) Put someone&#039;s name in and look at the resulting list, which is sorted by &quot;cited by #&quot; counts.

3) Play with name until you&#039;re mostly getting the one you want, &quot;JR Mashey&quot; is trivial, &quot;Robert Smith&quot; is impossible, unless you can add differentiating search terms.

4) Serious people often work with multiple other co-authors, it&#039;s usually more important to be first or second author, although be careful of alphabetized author lists. [We usually did that at Bell Labs.]

5) Learn the names of important journals.  Science, Nature, PNAS are generally important; many others are as well, but may need exploration to figure out.  Mainline peer-reviewed journals or major scientific societies are important.  Energy&amp;Environment, or Journal Scientific Exploration ... not so much.  Also:

Google: impact factor

of course, GoogleScholar includes many more sources than credible refereed journals, so you have to watch out for tha, and difference between journals and newsletters.

6) Look at the number of citations, and then click on &quot;Cited by:&quot; to see who cites them and where.  Work that is frequently cited (unless it&#039;s a batch of refutations!) by other serious researchers in serious journals ... is what makes somebody&#039;s reputation.  Of course, important older papers will have had time to collect more citations.

7) One must always be careful of well-published scientists, at/near retirement, who then:

a) Start writing about a completely different area.
b) But in OpEds, newspapers, letters-to-editor, web pages
c) But not in peer-reviewed journals
d) Even with a long history of doing serious research

or even, who have done fine work in the area, but not much recently...
(i.e., look at the dates, at least a little)

8) If you haven&#039;t done this before, imagine you&#039;ve never heard of any of these, and see if you can sort out:

a) Long-established prolific, climate researchers
b) Strong younger researchers
c) People not really publishing much peer-reviewed work lately, or ever, or having moved from somewhere else.

je hansen
wf ruddiman
ga schmidt
si akasofu
rs lindzen
b lomborg

and (assuming one didn&#039;t know):

bw brook]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose this should have been part of <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/08/john_mashey_on_how_to_learn_ab.php" rel="nofollow">How to learn about science</a>, but it was already long.  The following doesn&#8217;t depend on for-pay databases, nor on someone&#8217;s CV, nor on what they (or anyone else) says about them.</p>
<p>GOOGLE SCHOLAR can more useful than arguing about universities, when assessing a researcher whose name is decently Googleable.  </p>
<p>1) Go to <a href="http://scholar.google.com" rel="nofollow">Google Scholar</a>.</p>
<p>2) Put someone&#8217;s name in and look at the resulting list, which is sorted by &#8220;cited by #&#8221; counts.</p>
<p>3) Play with name until you&#8217;re mostly getting the one you want, &#8220;JR Mashey&#8221; is trivial, &#8220;Robert Smith&#8221; is impossible, unless you can add differentiating search terms.</p>
<p>4) Serious people often work with multiple other co-authors, it&#8217;s usually more important to be first or second author, although be careful of alphabetized author lists. [We usually did that at Bell Labs.]</p>
<p>5) Learn the names of important journals.  Science, Nature, PNAS are generally important; many others are as well, but may need exploration to figure out.  Mainline peer-reviewed journals or major scientific societies are important.  Energy&amp;Environment, or Journal Scientific Exploration &#8230; not so much.  Also:</p>
<p>Google: impact factor</p>
<p>of course, GoogleScholar includes many more sources than credible refereed journals, so you have to watch out for tha, and difference between journals and newsletters.</p>
<p>6) Look at the number of citations, and then click on &#8220;Cited by:&#8221; to see who cites them and where.  Work that is frequently cited (unless it&#8217;s a batch of refutations!) by other serious researchers in serious journals &#8230; is what makes somebody&#8217;s reputation.  Of course, important older papers will have had time to collect more citations.</p>
<p>7) One must always be careful of well-published scientists, at/near retirement, who then:</p>
<p>a) Start writing about a completely different area.<br />
b) But in OpEds, newspapers, letters-to-editor, web pages<br />
c) But not in peer-reviewed journals<br />
d) Even with a long history of doing serious research</p>
<p>or even, who have done fine work in the area, but not much recently&#8230;<br />
(i.e., look at the dates, at least a little)</p>
<p>8) If you haven&#8217;t done this before, imagine you&#8217;ve never heard of any of these, and see if you can sort out:</p>
<p>a) Long-established prolific, climate researchers<br />
b) Strong younger researchers<br />
c) People not really publishing much peer-reviewed work lately, or ever, or having moved from somewhere else.</p>
<p>je hansen<br />
wf ruddiman<br />
ga schmidt<br />
si akasofu<br />
rs lindzen<br />
b lomborg</p>
<p>and (assuming one didn&#8217;t know):</p>
<p>bw brook</p>
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		<title>By: perps</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-848</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 05:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I Googled Macquarie Uni + rankings + 2008 and found out that Macquarie Uni was placed 7th in Australia ahead of Monash and Adelaide - who, incidentally, are both  from the elite Group of 8. Therefore, Macquarie qualifies as one of Australia&#039;s top research unis.
 Also discovered that Macquarie graduates are the highest paid of all Australia&#039;s new graduates. Guess that shuts you up Hissink - and other detractors!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Googled Macquarie Uni + rankings + 2008 and found out that Macquarie Uni was placed 7th in Australia ahead of Monash and Adelaide &#8211; who, incidentally, are both  from the elite Group of 8. Therefore, Macquarie qualifies as one of Australia&#8217;s top research unis.<br />
 Also discovered that Macquarie graduates are the highest paid of all Australia&#8217;s new graduates. Guess that shuts you up Hissink &#8211; and other detractors!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-846</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 05:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Mashey @ 40, there&#039;s an amusing consequence:

&quot;Joke 930!&quot; (much louder laughter than usual)
Newcomer asks why the laughter is louder. &quot;Oh, they&#039;ve never heard that one before.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Mashey @ 40, there&#8217;s an amusing consequence:</p>
<p>&#8220;Joke 930!&#8221; (much louder laughter than usual)<br />
Newcomer asks why the laughter is louder. &#8220;Oh, they&#8217;ve never heard that one before.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John Mashey</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-837</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mashey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re: #46 WotWot
Yes, sorry, it definitely takes less effort to throw up nonsense.
Thanks.

You can see an example of using Skeptical Science as reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article2709551.ece&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David Bellamy&lt;/a&gt; : open up all comments, and search for skepticalscience.

This is an example of a size-constrained reply to a short article that managed to include 12-13 wrong arguments.  I once saw an OpEd manage to get ~15 hits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: #46 WotWot<br />
Yes, sorry, it definitely takes less effort to throw up nonsense.<br />
Thanks.</p>
<p>You can see an example of using Skeptical Science as reply to <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article2709551.ece" rel="nofollow">David Bellamy</a> : open up all comments, and search for skepticalscience.</p>
<p>This is an example of a size-constrained reply to a short article that managed to include 12-13 wrong arguments.  I once saw an OpEd manage to get ~15 hits.</p>
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		<title>By: perps</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-832</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[perps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BTW the APA goes to the student, not the institution, and as it is highly regarded, no doubt Barry would have had offers, from several universities, to complete his Phd with them.

Further, how many people, do you suppose, get promoted to full Professor in their early 30&#039;s? Not many!! To be appointed you have to fulfil various academic criteria, which most cannot achieve until later in life. He really has got to you deniers hasn&#039;t he! Keep up the good work Barry!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW the APA goes to the student, not the institution, and as it is highly regarded, no doubt Barry would have had offers, from several universities, to complete his Phd with them.</p>
<p>Further, how many people, do you suppose, get promoted to full Professor in their early 30&#8242;s? Not many!! To be appointed you have to fulfil various academic criteria, which most cannot achieve until later in life. He really has got to you deniers hasn&#8217;t he! Keep up the good work Barry!</p>
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		<title>By: WotWot</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-831</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WotWot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;It takes way more effort to throw up dumb (but plausible-sounding) arguments than it does to carefully explain them.&lt;/i&gt;

Did you mean 

&lt;i&gt;It takes way less effort...&lt;/i&gt;

???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It takes way more effort to throw up dumb (but plausible-sounding) arguments than it does to carefully explain them.</i></p>
<p>Did you mean </p>
<p><i>It takes way less effort&#8230;</i></p>
<p>???</p>
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		<title>By: perps</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-828</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 07:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Louis Hissink - 39
Thought you might like to know that I discovered that Prof Brook was given a three year Australian Post-graduate Award, to fund his Phd.As these are very prestigious and competitive and just a few are offered annually, they are only awarded to the creme de la creme of 1st class honours students.Ergo - wherever the original degree was obtained is unimportant in the eyes of the government and the Australian Research Council. That is good enough for me and I would suggest any normal person without an agenda like yours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louis Hissink &#8211; 39<br />
Thought you might like to know that I discovered that Prof Brook was given a three year Australian Post-graduate Award, to fund his Phd.As these are very prestigious and competitive and just a few are offered annually, they are only awarded to the creme de la creme of 1st class honours students.Ergo &#8211; wherever the original degree was obtained is unimportant in the eyes of the government and the Australian Research Council. That is good enough for me and I would suggest any normal person without an agenda like yours.</p>
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		<title>By: dhogaza</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/08/31/so-just-who-does-climate-science/#comment-824</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
Interesting CV but which Uni awarded your initial science degree.
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If it was a world-class university, in a world-class department, it would mean he has met expectations by having an exceptional career.

If it was a lesser university, it would mean he has exceeded expectations by having an exceptional career.

Which means there&#039;s only one possible reason you&#039;re asking the question: you want to ignore his exceptional career and focus on the university where he got his undergraduate degree.

No one cares.  We know you&#039;re an evolutionary-biology denying, climate science denying, physics denying, HIV-AIDS denying troll, and not worthy of attention.]]></description>
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Interesting CV but which Uni awarded your initial science degree.
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<p>If it was a world-class university, in a world-class department, it would mean he has met expectations by having an exceptional career.</p>
<p>If it was a lesser university, it would mean he has exceeded expectations by having an exceptional career.</p>
<p>Which means there&#8217;s only one possible reason you&#8217;re asking the question: you want to ignore his exceptional career and focus on the university where he got his undergraduate degree.</p>
<p>No one cares.  We know you&#8217;re an evolutionary-biology denying, climate science denying, physics denying, HIV-AIDS denying troll, and not worthy of attention.</p>
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