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	<title>Comments on: What Bob Carter and Andrew Bolt fail to grasp</title>
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	<description>Getting to grips with the brave new world of future climate and energy - notes from a Promethean environmentalist</description>
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		<title>By: The sun rose this morning&#8211;no budget cut on that apparently &#171; Neil&#039;s final decade</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-127039</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The sun rose this morning&#8211;no budget cut on that apparently &#171; Neil&#039;s final decade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 22:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] See Did Bob Carter publish the worst paper on climate change ever? and other stories. Check Bob’s form guide. See What Bob Carter and Andrew Bolt fail to grasp. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] See Did Bob Carter publish the worst paper on climate change ever? and other stories. Check Bob’s form guide. See What Bob Carter and Andrew Bolt fail to grasp. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Media reactions to the Energy paper – part 2 &#171; BraveNewClimate</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-109223</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Media reactions to the Energy paper – part 2 &#171; BraveNewClimate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 07:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] look at the reaction of my old sparring partner Andrew Bolt, a journo and popular blogger for News Ltd. In response to our paper and some other related reports [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] look at the reaction of my old sparring partner Andrew Bolt, a journo and popular blogger for News Ltd. In response to our paper and some other related reports [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-40368</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An increased ocean temperature will result in an increased evaporation, which will result in increased snow fall and ice formation. It&#039;s the homeostatic effect.

If, as I believe, that man is not largely the cause of global warming, then our governments will waste an estimated 30 Trillion dollars on the fallacious crisis. 

The belief in the man-made cause is unbelievable political, obstinate and unscientific. Sure there is science supporting the contention, but it has become more of a religion than science.

The established nature of scientific revolution is that it takes a long time for the mindset to change to the new consensus. So we will be stuck in this current mindset for sometime longer. I just hope we don&#039;t waste 30 Trillion dollars before the world wakes up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An increased ocean temperature will result in an increased evaporation, which will result in increased snow fall and ice formation. It&#8217;s the homeostatic effect.</p>
<p>If, as I believe, that man is not largely the cause of global warming, then our governments will waste an estimated 30 Trillion dollars on the fallacious crisis. </p>
<p>The belief in the man-made cause is unbelievable political, obstinate and unscientific. Sure there is science supporting the contention, but it has become more of a religion than science.</p>
<p>The established nature of scientific revolution is that it takes a long time for the mindset to change to the new consensus. So we will be stuck in this current mindset for sometime longer. I just hope we don&#8217;t waste 30 Trillion dollars before the world wakes up.</p>
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		<title>By: Independent statisticians reject &#8216;global cooling&#8217; fable &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-32472</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Independent statisticians reject &#8216;global cooling&#8217; fable &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] What Bob Carter and Andrew Bolt fail to grasp:”… [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Two worlds collide — Hot Topic</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-25924</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Two worlds collide — Hot Topic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] she repeats the &#8220;cooling since 1998&#8243; lie (dealt with superbly by Prof Barry Brook in this new post at Brave New Climate), demonstrates a clear misunderstanding of the Kyoto Protocol (the same [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] she repeats the &#8220;cooling since 1998&#8243; lie (dealt with superbly by Prof Barry Brook in this new post at Brave New Climate), demonstrates a clear misunderstanding of the Kyoto Protocol (the same [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Macdonald</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-25078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Macdonald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t see anyone mention Dr. Roy Spencer, who along with Lindzen has done quite a bit of research lately concerning Feedbacks. Most of the research shows that feedbacks are nearly zero or negative.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t see anyone mention Dr. Roy Spencer, who along with Lindzen has done quite a bit of research lately concerning Feedbacks. Most of the research shows that feedbacks are nearly zero or negative.</p>
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		<title>By: kiwichick</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-23900</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kiwichick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[neil
re peak oil

www.theoildrum.com/node/5672#more]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neil<br />
re peak oil</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theoildrum.com/node/5672#more" rel="nofollow">http://www.theoildrum.com/node/5672#more</a></p>
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		<title>By: kiwichick</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-23898</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kiwichick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[neil

i for one confess to cashing in on global
warming

as can anybody with access to the sharemarket

(that is anyone with internet access )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neil</p>
<p>i for one confess to cashing in on global<br />
warming</p>
<p>as can anybody with access to the sharemarket</p>
<p>(that is anyone with internet access )</p>
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		<title>By: Is our whole dissembly appeared? &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-20555</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Is our whole dissembly appeared? &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The perfectly obvious explanation is global warming is also warming the ocean (it being part of the globe &#8230; a little fyi for the authors who apparently did not know that), which stores and transports it. Of course Carter has a history of being pretty clueless about heat and the oceans; What Bob Carter and Andrew Bolt fail to grasp. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The perfectly obvious explanation is global warming is also warming the ocean (it being part of the globe &#8230; a little fyi for the authors who apparently did not know that), which stores and transports it. Of course Carter has a history of being pretty clueless about heat and the oceans; What Bob Carter and Andrew Bolt fail to grasp. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Is our whole dissembly appeared? &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-20552</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Is our whole dissembly appeared? &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The perfectly obvious explanation is global warming is also warming the ocean (it being part of the globe &#8230; a little fyi for the authors who apparently did not know that), which stores and transports it. Of course Carter has a history of being pretty clueless about heat and the oceans; What Bob Carter and Andrew Bolt fail to grasp. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The perfectly obvious explanation is global warming is also warming the ocean (it being part of the globe &#8230; a little fyi for the authors who apparently did not know that), which stores and transports it. Of course Carter has a history of being pretty clueless about heat and the oceans; What Bob Carter and Andrew Bolt fail to grasp. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Global Warming? why is it so freaking cold? &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-20107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Global Warming? why is it so freaking cold? &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] course air masses are nothing, the real heat energy is in the oceans. We all just how much our global weather is affected when the Pacific cycle switches from El Niño [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] course air masses are nothing, the real heat energy is in the oceans. We all just how much our global weather is affected when the Pacific cycle switches from El Niño [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BFJ Cricklewood</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-19458</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BFJ Cricklewood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; So just how does climate alarmism boost $$ for research, as opposed to concern but uncertainty, requiring more research to be certain? 

Alarmism implies there&#039;s a problem, and solving problems obviously needs money.


&gt; How do scientists benefit from more taxes and bureaucracies? Do you suppose scientists don’t pay taxes? And do you imagine that scientists get the research $$ in their own hip pocket? 

No, your regular scientists doesn&#039;t stand to make millions like Gore and others high up in the green-industrial complex.  They will though keep funds coming to bolster science jobs and research grants.

&gt; Your alarmist conspiracy theories are laughable.
I claim no conspiracy, merely systemic bias.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; So just how does climate alarmism boost $$ for research, as opposed to concern but uncertainty, requiring more research to be certain? </p>
<p>Alarmism implies there&#8217;s a problem, and solving problems obviously needs money.</p>
<p>&gt; How do scientists benefit from more taxes and bureaucracies? Do you suppose scientists don’t pay taxes? And do you imagine that scientists get the research $$ in their own hip pocket? </p>
<p>No, your regular scientists doesn&#8217;t stand to make millions like Gore and others high up in the green-industrial complex.  They will though keep funds coming to bolster science jobs and research grants.</p>
<p>&gt; Your alarmist conspiracy theories are laughable.<br />
I claim no conspiracy, merely systemic bias.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaz</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-19434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gaz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BFJC, you say &quot;Mainstream climatology gets its funds from the state, which is itself the prime beneficiary of alarmist analyses.&quot;

This is incorrect.

The state ultimately derives its revenue from national income.

If, as the deniorati claim, global warming is a myth, then efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions will reduce potential gowth in national income, albeit slightly, for no offsetting benefit in future years.

In that case the state would not, as you claim, be the main beneficiary of policies designed to mitigate emissions and it would therefore have no incentive to promote them by sponsoring so-called &quot;alarmism&quot;.

Therefore the state only has an interest in pursuing mitigation policies if the scientists are right.

Anyway, it&#039;s not as if the state needs global warming to justify a new way of raising revenue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BFJC, you say &#8220;Mainstream climatology gets its funds from the state, which is itself the prime beneficiary of alarmist analyses.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is incorrect.</p>
<p>The state ultimately derives its revenue from national income.</p>
<p>If, as the deniorati claim, global warming is a myth, then efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions will reduce potential gowth in national income, albeit slightly, for no offsetting benefit in future years.</p>
<p>In that case the state would not, as you claim, be the main beneficiary of policies designed to mitigate emissions and it would therefore have no incentive to promote them by sponsoring so-called &#8220;alarmism&#8221;.</p>
<p>Therefore the state only has an interest in pursuing mitigation policies if the scientists are right.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s not as if the state needs global warming to justify a new way of raising revenue.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Brook</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-19419</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Brook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So just how does climate alarmism boost $$ for research, as opposed to concern but uncertainty, requiring more research to be certain? How do scientists benefit from more taxes and bureaucracies? Do you suppose scientists don&#039;t pay taxes? And do you imagine that scientists get the research $$ in their own hip pocket? Your alarmist conspiracy theories are laughable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So just how does climate alarmism boost $$ for research, as opposed to concern but uncertainty, requiring more research to be certain? How do scientists benefit from more taxes and bureaucracies? Do you suppose scientists don&#8217;t pay taxes? And do you imagine that scientists get the research $$ in their own hip pocket? Your alarmist conspiracy theories are laughable.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Byrne</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-19401</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Byrne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The real problem is pseudo-science, such as the IPCC practices (two thirds of whom are spin doctors rather than scientists).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is just name calling and assertions. Everything the IPCC reports is peer reviewed, from leading journals. It represent a conservative summary of the evidence avaliable.

The real incentive for profits is from the fossil fuel oligarchs who are trying to sell doubt. That is where you can find the pseudo-science, pushed by the pseudo-skeptics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The real problem is pseudo-science, such as the IPCC practices (two thirds of whom are spin doctors rather than scientists).</p></blockquote>
<p>This is just name calling and assertions. Everything the IPCC reports is peer reviewed, from leading journals. It represent a conservative summary of the evidence avaliable.</p>
<p>The real incentive for profits is from the fossil fuel oligarchs who are trying to sell doubt. That is where you can find the pseudo-science, pushed by the pseudo-skeptics.</p>
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		<title>By: BFJ Cricklewood</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-19291</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BFJ Cricklewood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The real problem is pseudo-science, such as the IPCC practices  (two thirds of whom are spin doctors rather than scientists).
Political funding of science cannot but put a political angle on it,  tending to 
* favour that science that boosts the state - such as climate alarmism, which provides excellent excuses for more taxes and bureaucracies
* pass over science that does not boost the state]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real problem is pseudo-science, such as the IPCC practices  (two thirds of whom are spin doctors rather than scientists).<br />
Political funding of science cannot but put a political angle on it,  tending to<br />
* favour that science that boosts the state &#8211; such as climate alarmism, which provides excellent excuses for more taxes and bureaucracies<br />
* pass over science that does not boost the state</p>
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		<title>By: omnologos</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-17755</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[omnologos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On a possibly related note: &lt;a href=&quot;Mediterranean Sea “Not Warming”&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Scientists: Mediterranean Sea “Not Warming”&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a possibly related note: <a href="Mediterranean Sea “Not Warming”" rel="nofollow">Scientists: Mediterranean Sea “Not Warming”</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mateo</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-17684</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mateo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, you continue to make claims about how the Earth, on balance, is warmer yet offer no understanding or clarity on how oceans should or will transfer this heat to the surface temps that have recently decreased.  It&#039;s fascinating how you can continue to fill the public with fear over something so poorly understood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you continue to make claims about how the Earth, on balance, is warmer yet offer no understanding or clarity on how oceans should or will transfer this heat to the surface temps that have recently decreased.  It&#8217;s fascinating how you can continue to fill the public with fear over something so poorly understood.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Head to head with a Cardinal</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-15078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Head to head with a Cardinal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 03:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and the good Cardinal, are not. (The medieval warm period wasn&#8217;t warmer. Warming didn&#8217;t stop in 1998.) But most appalling to me was this childish attempt to use his own basic confusion about [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and the good Cardinal, are not. (The medieval warm period wasn&#8217;t warmer. Warming didn&#8217;t stop in 1998.) But most appalling to me was this childish attempt to use his own basic confusion about [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Byrne</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/11/23/what-bob-carter-and-andrew-bolt-fail-to-grasp/#comment-14678</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Byrne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BFJ Cricklewood,

Have you determined which way the bias is directed? Or is this a pet theory with no data?

My hypothesis is that the current bias is towards inquiry and advancement of understanding. 

I am concerned about a developing trend requiring universities to partner with commercial institution. However this bias would be in favour of established industries (like big coal).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BFJ Cricklewood,</p>
<p>Have you determined which way the bias is directed? Or is this a pet theory with no data?</p>
<p>My hypothesis is that the current bias is towards inquiry and advancement of understanding. </p>
<p>I am concerned about a developing trend requiring universities to partner with commercial institution. However this bias would be in favour of established industries (like big coal).</p>
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