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	<title>Comments on: Managing catastrophic climate risk &#8211; the six step plan</title>
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		<title>By: Climate Change and the impotence of Australia&#8217;s leadership &#171; One Inity</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/12/07/managing-catastrophic-climate-risk-the-six-step-plan/#comment-126303</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Climate Change and the impotence of Australia&#8217;s leadership &#171; One Inity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 08:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] be sure that no mainstream government will advocate for the abrupt change required. As written at Brave New Climate, &#8216;the potential for catastrophic impact from anthropogenic climate change is increasing [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: TCASE 12: A checklist for renewable energy plans &#171; BraveNewClimate</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/12/07/managing-catastrophic-climate-risk-the-six-step-plan/#comment-80946</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TCASE 12: A checklist for renewable energy plans &#171; BraveNewClimate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brad Arnold</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/12/07/managing-catastrophic-climate-risk-the-six-step-plan/#comment-3391</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad Arnold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Few seem to realise that the present IPCC models predict almost unanimously that by 2040 the average summer in Europe will be as hot as the summer of 2003 when over 30,000 died from heat. By then we may cool ourselves with air conditioning and learn to live in a climate no worse than that of Baghdad now. But without extensive irrigation the plants will die and both farming and natural ecosystems will be replaced by scrub and desert. What will there be to eat? The same dire changes will affect the rest of the world and I can envisage Americans migrating into Canada and the Chinese into Siberia but there may be little food for any of them.&quot; --Dr James Lovelock&#039;s lecture to the Royal Society, 29 Oct. &#039;07

&quot;I know of no realistic person who thinks carbon dioxide emissions are going to do anything but grow. Most European countries are not meeting their emissions goals, and of the ones that have, it&#039;s because their economies are collapsing. In the United States, this notion that we&#039;re going to reduce our emissions by 80 percent is pure fantasy.&quot; --Pete Geddes, Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment, 2 April 2008

&quot;I&#039;m going to tell you something I probably shouldn&#039;t: we may not be able to stop global warming. We need to begin curbing global greenhouse emissions right now, but more than a decade after the signing of the Kyoto Protocol, the world has utterly failed to do so. Unless the geopolitics of global warming change soon, the Hail Mary pass of geoengineering might become our best shot.&quot; --Bryan Walsh, Time Magazine, 17 March 2008

&quot;The alternative (to geoengineering) is the acceptance of a massive natural cull of humanity and a return to an Earth that freely regulates itself but in the hot state.&quot; --Dr James Lovelock, August 2008]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Few seem to realise that the present IPCC models predict almost unanimously that by 2040 the average summer in Europe will be as hot as the summer of 2003 when over 30,000 died from heat. By then we may cool ourselves with air conditioning and learn to live in a climate no worse than that of Baghdad now. But without extensive irrigation the plants will die and both farming and natural ecosystems will be replaced by scrub and desert. What will there be to eat? The same dire changes will affect the rest of the world and I can envisage Americans migrating into Canada and the Chinese into Siberia but there may be little food for any of them.&#8221; &#8211;Dr James Lovelock&#8217;s lecture to the Royal Society, 29 Oct. &#8217;07</p>
<p>&#8220;I know of no realistic person who thinks carbon dioxide emissions are going to do anything but grow. Most European countries are not meeting their emissions goals, and of the ones that have, it&#8217;s because their economies are collapsing. In the United States, this notion that we&#8217;re going to reduce our emissions by 80 percent is pure fantasy.&#8221; &#8211;Pete Geddes, Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment, 2 April 2008</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m going to tell you something I probably shouldn&#8217;t: we may not be able to stop global warming. We need to begin curbing global greenhouse emissions right now, but more than a decade after the signing of the Kyoto Protocol, the world has utterly failed to do so. Unless the geopolitics of global warming change soon, the Hail Mary pass of geoengineering might become our best shot.&#8221; &#8211;Bryan Walsh, Time Magazine, 17 March 2008</p>
<p>&#8220;The alternative (to geoengineering) is the acceptance of a massive natural cull of humanity and a return to an Earth that freely regulates itself but in the hot state.&#8221; &#8211;Dr James Lovelock, August 2008</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Earl Salmony</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/12/07/managing-catastrophic-climate-risk-the-six-step-plan/#comment-3268</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Earl Salmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the need for scientific education regarding the human overpopulation of Earth in these early years of Century XXI...........

Dear Friends of the BraveNewClimate community, 

I want to at least try to gain your quick help. I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;ve heard, but yesterday the &quot;AWAREness Campaign on the Human Population&quot; submitted an idea for how we think the Obama Administration could change America. It&#039;s called &quot;Ideas for Change in America.&quot; 

I&#039;ve submitted an idea and wanted to see if you could vote for it. The title is: Accepting human limits and Earth&#039;s limitations. You can read and vote for the idea by clicking on the following link: 

http://www.change.org/ideas/view/accepting_human_limits_and_earths_limitations 

The top 10 ideas are going to be presented to the Obama Administration on Inauguration Day and will be supported by a national lobbying campaign run by Change.org, MySpace, and more than a dozen leading nonprofits after the Inauguration. So each idea has a real chance at becoming policy. 

Thanks.

Sincerely yours,

Steve 

Steven Earl Salmony
AWAREness Campaign on the Human Population, 
established 2001
http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the need for scientific education regarding the human overpopulation of Earth in these early years of Century XXI&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Dear Friends of the BraveNewClimate community, </p>
<p>I want to at least try to gain your quick help. I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;ve heard, but yesterday the &#8220;AWAREness Campaign on the Human Population&#8221; submitted an idea for how we think the Obama Administration could change America. It&#8217;s called &#8220;Ideas for Change in America.&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve submitted an idea and wanted to see if you could vote for it. The title is: Accepting human limits and Earth&#8217;s limitations. You can read and vote for the idea by clicking on the following link: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.change.org/ideas/view/accepting_human_limits_and_earths_limitations" rel="nofollow">http://www.change.org/ideas/view/accepting_human_limits_and_earths_limitations</a> </p>
<p>The top 10 ideas are going to be presented to the Obama Administration on Inauguration Day and will be supported by a national lobbying campaign run by Change.org, MySpace, and more than a dozen leading nonprofits after the Inauguration. So each idea has a real chance at becoming policy. </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Sincerely yours,</p>
<p>Steve </p>
<p>Steven Earl Salmony<br />
AWAREness Campaign on the Human Population,<br />
established 2001<br />
<a href="http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176" rel="nofollow">http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176</a></p>
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		<title>By: Clutching at Straws &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/12/07/managing-catastrophic-climate-risk-the-six-step-plan/#comment-3233</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clutching at Straws &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Barry Brook has a similar assessment of the Australian proposal in his piece &#8220;Managing catastrophic climate risk - the six step plan.&#8221; [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Barry Brook</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/12/07/managing-catastrophic-climate-risk-the-six-step-plan/#comment-3193</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Brook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sort of, yes. I think that most people who talk about 450ppm are thinking implicitly in terms of total forcing (GHG+aerosols+albedo), such that 375 ppm is today and we are still 75ppm CO2e off that mark.

Hansen&#039;s view, for instance, when he talks about 300-350ppm CO2 is that there will be a concomitant reduction in other +ve forcing agents (methane, nitrous oxide, black carbon) to go along with the CO2 drop. Otherwise, the -ve forcing tropospheric aerosols ruin the party because they also get lost as we shut down coal-fired power and automobiles, and 350ppm CO2 remains about 400ppm CO2e, as you suspect. This is the critical part of the equation that most people overlook - I need to blog further on this in Part II of the committed warming series.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sort of, yes. I think that most people who talk about 450ppm are thinking implicitly in terms of total forcing (GHG+aerosols+albedo), such that 375 ppm is today and we are still 75ppm CO2e off that mark.</p>
<p>Hansen&#8217;s view, for instance, when he talks about 300-350ppm CO2 is that there will be a concomitant reduction in other +ve forcing agents (methane, nitrous oxide, black carbon) to go along with the CO2 drop. Otherwise, the -ve forcing tropospheric aerosols ruin the party because they also get lost as we shut down coal-fired power and automobiles, and 350ppm CO2 remains about 400ppm CO2e, as you suspect. This is the critical part of the equation that most people overlook &#8211; I need to blog further on this in Part II of the committed warming series.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard McGuire</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/12/07/managing-catastrophic-climate-risk-the-six-step-plan/#comment-3192</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard McGuire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3# Barry I went back and looked your posting on CO2e Oct 6th. From that, can I now assume that anyone referring to stabilizing greenhouse emissions at 450 ppm CO2e is currently looking at the figure 375 ppm CO2e, or there about, which takes into account all forcings ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3# Barry I went back and looked your posting on CO2e Oct 6th. From that, can I now assume that anyone referring to stabilizing greenhouse emissions at 450 ppm CO2e is currently looking at the figure 375 ppm CO2e, or there about, which takes into account all forcings ?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Earl Salmony</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/12/07/managing-catastrophic-climate-risk-the-six-step-plan/#comment-3191</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Earl Salmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WHAT IS GALILEO DOING TONIGHT?

I find it irresistible not to at least take a moment to wonder aloud about what Galileo is doing tonight. My hope would be that the great man is resting in peace and that his head is not spinning in his grave. How, now, can Galileo possibly find peace when so many top-rank scientists refuse to speak out clearly, loudly and often regarding whatsoever they believe to be true about the distinctly human-induced, global predicament presented to the family of humanity in our time by certain unbridled &quot;overgrowth&quot; activities of the human species from which global challenges visibly issue now and loom ominously on the far horizon?

Where are the thousands of scientists who have a responsibility to stand up with those who developed virtual mountains of good scientific research regarding overconsumption, overproduction and overpopulation activities of the human species that are now overspreading and threatening to engulf the Earth.

Perhaps there is something in the great and everlasting work of many silent scientists that will give Galileo a moment of peace in our time.

What would the world we inhabit look like if scientists like Galileo adopted a code of silence, speaking only about scientific evidence which was politically convenient, economically expedient, religiously condoned and socially correct?

Steven Earl Salmony
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population,
established 2001]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHAT IS GALILEO DOING TONIGHT?</p>
<p>I find it irresistible not to at least take a moment to wonder aloud about what Galileo is doing tonight. My hope would be that the great man is resting in peace and that his head is not spinning in his grave. How, now, can Galileo possibly find peace when so many top-rank scientists refuse to speak out clearly, loudly and often regarding whatsoever they believe to be true about the distinctly human-induced, global predicament presented to the family of humanity in our time by certain unbridled &#8220;overgrowth&#8221; activities of the human species from which global challenges visibly issue now and loom ominously on the far horizon?</p>
<p>Where are the thousands of scientists who have a responsibility to stand up with those who developed virtual mountains of good scientific research regarding overconsumption, overproduction and overpopulation activities of the human species that are now overspreading and threatening to engulf the Earth.</p>
<p>Perhaps there is something in the great and everlasting work of many silent scientists that will give Galileo a moment of peace in our time.</p>
<p>What would the world we inhabit look like if scientists like Galileo adopted a code of silence, speaking only about scientific evidence which was politically convenient, economically expedient, religiously condoned and socially correct?</p>
<p>Steven Earl Salmony<br />
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population,<br />
established 2001</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Brook</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/12/07/managing-catastrophic-climate-risk-the-six-step-plan/#comment-3185</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Brook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard @2: CO2e - it&#039;s a common query and not altogether straightforward. I did my best to answer it recently in &lt;a href=&quot;http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/10/06/how-much-warming-in-the-pipeline-part-1-co2-e/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard @2: CO2e &#8211; it&#8217;s a common query and not altogether straightforward. I did my best to answer it recently in <a href="http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/10/06/how-much-warming-in-the-pipeline-part-1-co2-e/" rel="nofollow">this post</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard McGuire</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/12/07/managing-catastrophic-climate-risk-the-six-step-plan/#comment-3181</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard McGuire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could someone please explain what the current level of CO2 equivalent is ? My understanding is, that it currently sits at around 450 ppm. Which makes discussion about getting CO2e levels down to, or stabilized at 450ppm, very confusing. I loved the Machiavelli quote at the end of Ian Dunlop&#039;s article. It summed up the dilemma humanity currently faces all too succinctly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could someone please explain what the current level of CO2 equivalent is ? My understanding is, that it currently sits at around 450 ppm. Which makes discussion about getting CO2e levels down to, or stabilized at 450ppm, very confusing. I loved the Machiavelli quote at the end of Ian Dunlop&#8217;s article. It summed up the dilemma humanity currently faces all too succinctly.</p>
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		<title>By: The Economy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sfluxe » Living Well in San Francisco » Obama Pledges Urgent and &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2008/12/07/managing-catastrophic-climate-risk-the-six-step-plan/#comment-3170</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Economy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sfluxe » Living Well in San Francisco » Obama Pledges Urgent and &#8230;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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