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	<title>Comments on: Prescription for the Planet &#8211; Part II &#8211; Newclear energy and boron-powered vehicles</title>
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		<title>By: G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Just scale up a spring-powered toy car &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Range scales as the zeroth power of size, i.e., doesn&#039;t change. Insects that specialize in jumping, and people that so specialize, show the same phenomenon, because both have the same limitations on energy stored in fast-acting muscle: both fleas and basketball players can, by jumping straight up, raise their centres of mass about one metre.

Interestingly, they do this with muscle that is only a small fraction of their total mass, but a coiled spring, which is 100 percent strained metal, can&#039;t jump any higher. You can probably easily confirm this if you have a retractable ball-point pen: they usually contain a small spring.

&lt;blockquote&gt;keep an alternator of some sort going to keep the batteries charged&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And presumably the batteries feed an electric drive motor. These intermediary stages consume energy. If a directly spring-driven Prius would go 25 metres, one with the electric stuff between the springs and the wheels would go 15 to 20 metres.


(&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How fire can be domesticated&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Just scale up a spring-powered toy car </p></blockquote>
<p>Range scales as the zeroth power of size, i.e., doesn&#8217;t change. Insects that specialize in jumping, and people that so specialize, show the same phenomenon, because both have the same limitations on energy stored in fast-acting muscle: both fleas and basketball players can, by jumping straight up, raise their centres of mass about one metre.</p>
<p>Interestingly, they do this with muscle that is only a small fraction of their total mass, but a coiled spring, which is 100 percent strained metal, can&#8217;t jump any higher. You can probably easily confirm this if you have a retractable ball-point pen: they usually contain a small spring.</p>
<blockquote><p>keep an alternator of some sort going to keep the batteries charged</p></blockquote>
<p>And presumably the batteries feed an electric drive motor. These intermediary stages consume energy. If a directly spring-driven Prius would go 25 metres, one with the electric stuff between the springs and the wheels would go 15 to 20 metres.</p>
<p>(<em><a href="http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/" rel="nofollow">How fire can be domesticated</a></em>)</p>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably taking a trip back to Sir Isaac Newton days here but.... How about mechanical energy plus electricity for vehicles? There could be lots of springs in a car that release power gradually and keep an alternator of some sort going to keep the batteries charged. The batteries would actually run the vehicle by powering a computer system. It would take a complex system of high-tension springs to be efficient. Just scale up a spring-powered toy car with some major modifications. It would have a computer system governing the vehicle&#039;s acceleration or deceleration. This would eliminate the need for a transmission of more than three gears; just forward, reverse and wind-up mode. You could have wind-up stations, and have a gear switch for wind-up mode of the back tires. Completely take combustion out of the equation; it seems unnecessary for ground transportation; bicycles go up to 50 mph...downhill...probably. I&#039;m no physicist, computer or mechanical engineer, but I&#039;m working my way toward becoming one of the three, so just dismiss this if it&#039;s completely stupid. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably taking a trip back to Sir Isaac Newton days here but&#8230;. How about mechanical energy plus electricity for vehicles? There could be lots of springs in a car that release power gradually and keep an alternator of some sort going to keep the batteries charged. The batteries would actually run the vehicle by powering a computer system. It would take a complex system of high-tension springs to be efficient. Just scale up a spring-powered toy car with some major modifications. It would have a computer system governing the vehicle&#8217;s acceleration or deceleration. This would eliminate the need for a transmission of more than three gears; just forward, reverse and wind-up mode. You could have wind-up stations, and have a gear switch for wind-up mode of the back tires. Completely take combustion out of the equation; it seems unnecessary for ground transportation; bicycles go up to 50 mph&#8230;downhill&#8230;probably. I&#8217;m no physicist, computer or mechanical engineer, but I&#8217;m working my way toward becoming one of the three, so just dismiss this if it&#8217;s completely stupid. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Steel yourself &#8211; a clear role for hydrogen &#171; BraveNewClimate.com</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/01/13/prescription-for-the-planet-part-ii-newclear-energy-and-boron-powered-vehicles/#comment-17093</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steel yourself &#8211; a clear role for hydrogen &#171; BraveNewClimate.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] or using stationary energy inputs to create chemical-electric batteries, hydrogen fuel cells, purified metals, etc. In the former case, the enegy input comes from a solar source in the form of biomass (via [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] or using stationary energy inputs to create chemical-electric batteries, hydrogen fuel cells, purified metals, etc. In the former case, the enegy input comes from a solar source in the form of biomass (via [...]</p>
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		<title>By: P4TP chapter 4 &#8211; everyone can now read Blees on IFR &#171; BraveNewClimate.com</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/01/13/prescription-for-the-planet-part-ii-newclear-energy-and-boron-powered-vehicles/#comment-15012</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P4TP chapter 4 &#8211; everyone can now read Blees on IFR &#171; BraveNewClimate.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 16:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] have already reviewed Chapters 4 and 5 of P4TP, here. The downloadable chapter covers the following [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have already reviewed Chapters 4 and 5 of P4TP, here. The downloadable chapter covers the following [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wesey Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wesey Bruce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boron cars are a nice Idea but if you have abundant nuclear energy there are several easier paths. 
A. CO2 + H2 = Methane CH4 and water (nickel Graphite catalyst in the garage or a clean combustion power plant) CH4 and another catalyst makes ethane and a third catalyst makes octane: That´s petrol. {clean coal technology should be designated clean combustion; it will work on biofuels drawing down on atmospheric CO2}  
B. Make biogas from sewerage, lawn clippings etc. Use the abundant energy from your nuke to strip out the CO2 in biogas; Its 50% CO2 50% CH4. Compress into an LNG tank in a car with a little more length to its wheel base so you get your gas tank and keep your big boot. Dry the biogas sludge to make fertilizer.  
C. If you have abundant energy make Aluminium pellets. Under the bonnet feed them into sodium hydroxide and water. Foom You have hydrogen in the carburettor or injector. A KG of Al will get you many miles in an efficient car. The hopper of Aluminium oxide is traded for an empty hopper [and a bag of pellets] at a recharging station. There Your abundant energy is used to power the production of more pellets. 

There are several more like that. Nuclear is not even required. All of these recycling technologies; boron, aluminium, carbon work on a time independent basis. They can use solar and wind power when its available and pause the factory when these power sources are unavailable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boron cars are a nice Idea but if you have abundant nuclear energy there are several easier paths.<br />
A. CO2 + H2 = Methane CH4 and water (nickel Graphite catalyst in the garage or a clean combustion power plant) CH4 and another catalyst makes ethane and a third catalyst makes octane: That´s petrol. {clean coal technology should be designated clean combustion; it will work on biofuels drawing down on atmospheric CO2}<br />
B. Make biogas from sewerage, lawn clippings etc. Use the abundant energy from your nuke to strip out the CO2 in biogas; Its 50% CO2 50% CH4. Compress into an LNG tank in a car with a little more length to its wheel base so you get your gas tank and keep your big boot. Dry the biogas sludge to make fertilizer.<br />
C. If you have abundant energy make Aluminium pellets. Under the bonnet feed them into sodium hydroxide and water. Foom You have hydrogen in the carburettor or injector. A KG of Al will get you many miles in an efficient car. The hopper of Aluminium oxide is traded for an empty hopper [and a bag of pellets] at a recharging station. There Your abundant energy is used to power the production of more pellets. </p>
<p>There are several more like that. Nuclear is not even required. All of these recycling technologies; boron, aluminium, carbon work on a time independent basis. They can use solar and wind power when its available and pause the factory when these power sources are unavailable.</p>
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		<title>By: Fast Reactor Radio &#171; BraveNewClimate.com</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/01/13/prescription-for-the-planet-part-ii-newclear-energy-and-boron-powered-vehicles/#comment-9510</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fast Reactor Radio &#171; BraveNewClimate.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] up&#8217;  on Integral Fast Reactor nuclear power is in written form of one sort of another: books, popular science articles, blog posts, and so on. But there&#8217;s plenty more out there. One fun [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Total energy independence in 12 years &#171; BraveNewClimate.com</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/01/13/prescription-for-the-planet-part-ii-newclear-energy-and-boron-powered-vehicles/#comment-8356</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Total energy independence in 12 years &#171; BraveNewClimate.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] has for energy storage and transport in our energy future, compared to alternatives such as metal-combustion (my bet is that the latter will prove to be a superior technology, e.g., due to its avoidance of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has for energy storage and transport in our energy future, compared to alternatives such as metal-combustion (my bet is that the latter will prove to be a superior technology, e.g., due to its avoidance of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hank Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re the Fuel Conditioning Facility located next to the EBR-II, is that being looked at by the industry folks?  It sounds like those could be built _before_ the GenIV plants, if they can process fuel from earlier designs.  Or is it chicken-and-egg, is it feasible to operate this form of reprocessing if you don&#039;t already have a GenIV plant right next to it?  

(Could the reprocessing plant be built within a space sufficient to later add the GenIV plant -- which would basically mean building the reprocessing plants next to the older coal power plants, I guess? -- well, they&#039;d need the railroad connections for that.) 


http://www.gnep.gov/pdfs/Goff_Electrochemicalposting.pdf

Electrochemical Processing of Spent Nuclear Fuel
Dr. Michael Goff, Idaho National Laboratory
Nuclear Regulatory Commission Seminar
Rockville, MD  March 25, 2008

____excerpt_____

Electrochemical Processing
Until 1994, focus was on demonstration of closed fuel cycle
with a fast reactor.
– Recycle of fast reactor fuel
– Limited work on production of fast reactor feed material from LWRs
In 1994, activities were redirected to treatment for disposal.
– Engineering-scale experience was gained with spent fuel.

With the formation of the Advanced Fuel Cycle Initiative (AFCI) in 2002 and the Global Nuclear Energy Partnership (GNEP) in 2006, recycle focus was renewed and stressed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re the Fuel Conditioning Facility located next to the EBR-II, is that being looked at by the industry folks?  It sounds like those could be built _before_ the GenIV plants, if they can process fuel from earlier designs.  Or is it chicken-and-egg, is it feasible to operate this form of reprocessing if you don&#8217;t already have a GenIV plant right next to it?  </p>
<p>(Could the reprocessing plant be built within a space sufficient to later add the GenIV plant &#8212; which would basically mean building the reprocessing plants next to the older coal power plants, I guess? &#8212; well, they&#8217;d need the railroad connections for that.) </p>
<p><a href="http://www.gnep.gov/pdfs/Goff_Electrochemicalposting.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.gnep.gov/pdfs/Goff_Electrochemicalposting.pdf</a></p>
<p>Electrochemical Processing of Spent Nuclear Fuel<br />
Dr. Michael Goff, Idaho National Laboratory<br />
Nuclear Regulatory Commission Seminar<br />
Rockville, MD  March 25, 2008</p>
<p>____excerpt_____</p>
<p>Electrochemical Processing<br />
Until 1994, focus was on demonstration of closed fuel cycle<br />
with a fast reactor.<br />
– Recycle of fast reactor fuel<br />
– Limited work on production of fast reactor feed material from LWRs<br />
In 1994, activities were redirected to treatment for disposal.<br />
– Engineering-scale experience was gained with spent fuel.</p>
<p>With the formation of the Advanced Fuel Cycle Initiative (AFCI) in 2002 and the Global Nuclear Energy Partnership (GNEP) in 2006, recycle focus was renewed and stressed.<br />
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		<title>By: Prescription for the Planet - Part IV – Show me the money! &#171; BraveNewClimate.com</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/01/13/prescription-for-the-planet-part-ii-newclear-energy-and-boron-powered-vehicles/#comment-7504</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Prescription for the Planet - Part IV – Show me the money! &#171; BraveNewClimate.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Integral Fast Reactors for the masses &#171; BraveNewClimate.com</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/01/13/prescription-for-the-planet-part-ii-newclear-energy-and-boron-powered-vehicles/#comment-6367</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Integral Fast Reactors for the masses &#171; BraveNewClimate.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Prescription for the Planet - Part III - Renewable atoms and plasma-charged waste &#171; BraveNewClimate.com</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/01/13/prescription-for-the-planet-part-ii-newclear-energy-and-boron-powered-vehicles/#comment-5326</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Prescription for the Planet - Part III - Renewable atoms and plasma-charged waste &#171; BraveNewClimate.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s the complement of T-low upon T-high.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the complement of T-low upon T-high.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Roberts</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/01/13/prescription-for-the-planet-part-ii-newclear-energy-and-boron-powered-vehicles/#comment-5113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hank Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; the cars being driven off lots today are conceptually 
&gt; getting heat-to-work efficiency percentages high in the 80s.

Is this astonishingly high?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; the cars being driven off lots today are conceptually<br />
&gt; getting heat-to-work efficiency percentages high in the 80s.</p>
<p>Is this astonishingly high?</p>
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		<title>By: G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/01/13/prescription-for-the-planet-part-ii-newclear-energy-and-boron-powered-vehicles/#comment-5094</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Is there any oxygen concentrator now available that produces ... oxygen ... pure enough for a boron engine to run on?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, see the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/235_248.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;paper&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s &quot;Oxygen denier readiness&quot; section.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is there any oxygen concentrator now available that produces &#8230; oxygen &#8230; pure enough for a boron engine to run on?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, see the <a href="http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/235_248.pdf" rel="nofollow">paper</a>&#8216;s &#8220;Oxygen denier readiness&#8221; section.</p>
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		<title>By: G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/01/13/prescription-for-the-planet-part-ii-newclear-energy-and-boron-powered-vehicles/#comment-5092</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This &lt;a href=&quot;http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/future-fuels-and-vehicles/message/11123&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;long-term payer of attention&lt;/a&gt; has, he says, distinct memories of scores of conceptually attractive vehicles sitting on dealer lots month after month, unleased.

Also note that if fuel cells were long established as cars&#039; main fuel energy converters at mid-30s gross efficiency -- has any vehicle fuel cell done better? -- and heat engines were the putatively keen putatively new thing, their fans could point to their conceptual efficiency.  Automotive heat engines operate between the temperature of a fuel-air flame, mid-2000s K, and that of a heat exchanger suitable for lightweight dumping of kilowatts, maybe 320 K, so the cars being driven off lots today are conceptually getting heat-to-work efficiency percentages high in the 80s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This <a href="http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/future-fuels-and-vehicles/message/11123" rel="nofollow">long-term payer of attention</a> has, he says, distinct memories of scores of conceptually attractive vehicles sitting on dealer lots month after month, unleased.</p>
<p>Also note that if fuel cells were long established as cars&#8217; main fuel energy converters at mid-30s gross efficiency &#8212; has any vehicle fuel cell done better? &#8212; and heat engines were the putatively keen putatively new thing, their fans could point to their conceptual efficiency.  Automotive heat engines operate between the temperature of a fuel-air flame, mid-2000s K, and that of a heat exchanger suitable for lightweight dumping of kilowatts, maybe 320 K, so the cars being driven off lots today are conceptually getting heat-to-work efficiency percentages high in the 80s.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hank Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does a boron engine require pure oxygen, or can it run on oxygen-enriched air with some remaining nitrogen? (Is the problem the same as with gasoline, production of nitrogen oxides, or does nitrogen in the gas interfere with the boron engine?)  

Is there any oxygen concentrator now available that produces pure oxygen?  Or pure enough for a boron engine to run on? 

The medical references I find comparing concentrators to oxygen tanks comment that the oxygen level the patient is breathing is lower when supplementing from the concentrator than from the tank.  But I didn&#039;t find numbers.

I found mention of aircraft devices that can produce pure oxygen, e.g.

US Patent 5,071,453, 1991 - freepatentsonline.com
... oxygen output ... in either, dilution mode (less than 100
percent concentrator output) or the 100 percent mode (pure oxygen)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does a boron engine require pure oxygen, or can it run on oxygen-enriched air with some remaining nitrogen? (Is the problem the same as with gasoline, production of nitrogen oxides, or does nitrogen in the gas interfere with the boron engine?)  </p>
<p>Is there any oxygen concentrator now available that produces pure oxygen?  Or pure enough for a boron engine to run on? </p>
<p>The medical references I find comparing concentrators to oxygen tanks comment that the oxygen level the patient is breathing is lower when supplementing from the concentrator than from the tank.  But I didn&#8217;t find numbers.</p>
<p>I found mention of aircraft devices that can produce pure oxygen, e.g.</p>
<p>US Patent 5,071,453, 1991 &#8211; freepatentsonline.com<br />
&#8230; oxygen output &#8230; in either, dilution mode (less than 100<br />
percent concentrator output) or the 100 percent mode (pure oxygen)</p>
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		<title>By: Eli Rabett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Rabett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with a boron powered car is that it is still a thermal engine, which means that the efficiency is inherently low, and why fuel cells are at least conceptually more attractive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with a boron powered car is that it is still a thermal engine, which means that the efficiency is inherently low, and why fuel cells are at least conceptually more attractive.</p>
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		<title>By: G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Correction, 0.4 kg/h oxygen at 30 percent makes 0.82 kWh, so the net is 0.57 kW, and the oxygen denier&#039;s take really is almost a third.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction, 0.4 kg/h oxygen at 30 percent makes 0.82 kWh, so the net is 0.57 kW, and the oxygen denier&#8217;s take really is almost a third.</p>
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		<title>By: G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/235_248.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;paper&lt;/a&gt;, emphasis added,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Compared to those of liquid hydrocarbon-burning cars, zero-local-emission cars’ stores of propulsion energy have been significantly less convenient to replenish and much smaller. The bargain they have offered early adopters has not been cachet for a price, but cachet for two prices: pay more and tolerate more inconvenience. Early adopters of tame combustion cars would also have to pay more, but &lt;strong&gt;convenience would become one of two benefits&lt;/strong&gt; rather than one of two costs...

... one such potential convenience ... is the option of buying the car and its whole lifetime supply of about 10 m^3 of fuel at the same time. Neither geometry nor prudence would forbid storing the fuel in one’s 200 m^3 basement apartment, and refuelling at home.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Last July 22 I noted at http://www.oxlifeinc.com/freedom5.php a claim that the oxygen denier advertised there would give 300 litres per hour of3 purified oxygen while consuming 0.25 kW. That&#039;s 0.40 kilograms per hour if the temperature is 20°C and the pressure is 1 atm. Weight of the unit, approximately 14.5 kg.

How much power can a boron-oxygen heat engine, with a typical 30-percent heat engine efficiency, make using 0.40 kg/h of oxygen? 1.85 kW. 1.6 kW would be net. A car with 200 kg of the units -- 14 of them -- would net 22 kW, 30 hp, with which to cruise all day.

Or anyway, that is how it was six months ago. Medical technology developers have been driving rapid reduction in these things&#039; size and power consumption. Blees performs an invaluable service by writing enthusiastically, but he tends to take American national laboratory authorities too seriously. They&#039;re likely enough to explain to you at length that an oxygen-concentrating boron motor must put at least a third of its output back into oxygen concentration, interrupting themselves only to take a hit of medical oxygen from a device that, as above said, would take less than 14 percent.

Still, without ORNL, the world might never have had that visualization of the word &quot;BORON&quot; swooping spectrally into a gas tank. At http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/BonCu2.jpg you can see some actual boron.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the <a href="http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/235_248.pdf" rel="nofollow">paper</a>, emphasis added,</p>
<blockquote><p>Compared to those of liquid hydrocarbon-burning cars, zero-local-emission cars’ stores of propulsion energy have been significantly less convenient to replenish and much smaller. The bargain they have offered early adopters has not been cachet for a price, but cachet for two prices: pay more and tolerate more inconvenience. Early adopters of tame combustion cars would also have to pay more, but <strong>convenience would become one of two benefits</strong> rather than one of two costs&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; one such potential convenience &#8230; is the option of buying the car and its whole lifetime supply of about 10 m^3 of fuel at the same time. Neither geometry nor prudence would forbid storing the fuel in one’s 200 m^3 basement apartment, and refuelling at home.</p></blockquote>
<p>Last July 22 I noted at <a href="http://www.oxlifeinc.com/freedom5.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.oxlifeinc.com/freedom5.php</a> a claim that the oxygen denier advertised there would give 300 litres per hour of3 purified oxygen while consuming 0.25 kW. That&#8217;s 0.40 kilograms per hour if the temperature is 20°C and the pressure is 1 atm. Weight of the unit, approximately 14.5 kg.</p>
<p>How much power can a boron-oxygen heat engine, with a typical 30-percent heat engine efficiency, make using 0.40 kg/h of oxygen? 1.85 kW. 1.6 kW would be net. A car with 200 kg of the units &#8212; 14 of them &#8212; would net 22 kW, 30 hp, with which to cruise all day.</p>
<p>Or anyway, that is how it was six months ago. Medical technology developers have been driving rapid reduction in these things&#8217; size and power consumption. Blees performs an invaluable service by writing enthusiastically, but he tends to take American national laboratory authorities too seriously. They&#8217;re likely enough to explain to you at length that an oxygen-concentrating boron motor must put at least a third of its output back into oxygen concentration, interrupting themselves only to take a hit of medical oxygen from a device that, as above said, would take less than 14 percent.</p>
<p>Still, without ORNL, the world might never have had that visualization of the word &#8220;BORON&#8221; swooping spectrally into a gas tank. At <a href="http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/BonCu2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/BonCu2.jpg</a> you can see some actual boron.</p>
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		<title>By: David B. Benson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David B. Benson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In current quantities, liquid oxygen is less expensive (slightly) than bottled water.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In current quantities, liquid oxygen is less expensive (slightly) than bottled water.</p>
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