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		<title>By: Future Now &#171; aimeemaxwell.net</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/01/19/ranking-geo-engineering-options-for-mitigating-climate-change-impacts/#comment-35589</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] that page led me to this one about ranking geo-engineering options. I didn&#8217;t realise that flying sunshades into space was a serious [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Towards climate geoengineering? &#171; BraveNewClimate.com</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/01/19/ranking-geo-engineering-options-for-mitigating-climate-change-impacts/#comment-11869</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Towards climate geoengineering? &#171; BraveNewClimate.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Posted by Barry Brook on 19 April 2009  [BWB Note: I&#039;m a bit tight for time right now, but Andrew Glikson saves the day with another great post, this time elaborating on some of the &#039;options&#039; we made need to face if we delay too long in cutting carbon emissions. For earlier discussions of this topic on BraveNewClimate, see here and here.] [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Posted by Barry Brook on 19 April 2009  [BWB Note: I'm a bit tight for time right now, but Andrew Glikson saves the day with another great post, this time elaborating on some of the 'options' we made need to face if we delay too long in cutting carbon emissions. For earlier discussions of this topic on BraveNewClimate, see here and here.] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Brook</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Brook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is an interesting story today in the &lt;i&gt;Sydney Morning Herald&lt;/i&gt; newspaper on geo-engineering, including a quote from me:

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/the-bizarre-ideas-that-could-help-the-world-20090312-8wig.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an interesting story today in the <i>Sydney Morning Herald</i> newspaper on geo-engineering, including a quote from me:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/environment/the-bizarre-ideas-that-could-help-the-world-20090312-8wig.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/environment/the-bizarre-ideas-that-could-help-the-world-20090312-8wig.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Barry Brook</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Brook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting paper in Nature today on the ocean fertilization option:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v457/n7229/abs/nature07716.html?lang=en]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting paper in Nature today on the ocean fertilization option:<br />
<a href="http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v457/n7229/abs/nature07716.html?lang=en" rel="nofollow">http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v457/n7229/abs/nature07716.html?lang=en</a></p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s a Collective Climate so where is our Collective Will &#171; Kurungabaa</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/01/19/ranking-geo-engineering-options-for-mitigating-climate-change-impacts/#comment-5504</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[It&#8217;s a Collective Climate so where is our Collective Will &#171; Kurungabaa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is a chart by New Zealander Phillip Boyd located at Brave New Climate and Nature Geo-Science measuring cost-effectiveness of different geo-engineering options for [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/01/19/ranking-geo-engineering-options-for-mitigating-climate-change-impacts/#comment-5355</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-5188&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David Benson said&lt;/a&gt;,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Enhanced weathering is a geochemical scheme which is highly controllable. The costs are such that somewhat less than 1% of the gross world product, about equal to the sum of world military budgets, would suffice to slightly more than remove all of the current (2007 CE) excess carbon dioxide added by humans.

Well, maybe slightly more. Still working out all the costs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Did you get answers to your questions at &lt;a href=&quot;http://rabett.blogspot.com/2008/12/idea-eli-has-been-thinking-about-clean.html?showComment=1229039340000#c2115994613562353684&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rabett Run&lt;/a&gt;? I looked at investing 50 kJ/(mol CO2) to do two things: comminute olivine to 25 microns (40 kJ) and lift the powder 5 km above the grinding site (10 kJ), so that as they settle at 0.06 m/s the wind can carry them far.

If their magnesium becomes magnesium bicarbonate dissolved in the sea, they take down twice the CO2 my calculations were based on.

I see no reason why CO2 wouldn&#039;t eat them right to the centre of a grain. At http://www.geology.yale.edu/~ajs/1999/07-09.1999.07Velbel.pdf the weathering rate is given. Ferrous iron, as it gets oxidized to ferric, helps break up a grain, even though I don&#039;t think it binds any CO2.


--- G.R.L. Cowan (&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How fire can be domesticated&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-5188" rel="nofollow">David Benson said</a>,</p>
<blockquote><p>Enhanced weathering is a geochemical scheme which is highly controllable. The costs are such that somewhat less than 1% of the gross world product, about equal to the sum of world military budgets, would suffice to slightly more than remove all of the current (2007 CE) excess carbon dioxide added by humans.</p>
<p>Well, maybe slightly more. Still working out all the costs.</p></blockquote>
<p>Did you get answers to your questions at <a href="http://rabett.blogspot.com/2008/12/idea-eli-has-been-thinking-about-clean.html?showComment=1229039340000#c2115994613562353684" rel="nofollow">Rabett Run</a>? I looked at investing 50 kJ/(mol CO2) to do two things: comminute olivine to 25 microns (40 kJ) and lift the powder 5 km above the grinding site (10 kJ), so that as they settle at 0.06 m/s the wind can carry them far.</p>
<p>If their magnesium becomes magnesium bicarbonate dissolved in the sea, they take down twice the CO2 my calculations were based on.</p>
<p>I see no reason why CO2 wouldn&#8217;t eat them right to the centre of a grain. At <a href="http://www.geology.yale.edu/~ajs/1999/07-09.1999.07Velbel.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.geology.yale.edu/~ajs/1999/07-09.1999.07Velbel.pdf</a> the weathering rate is given. Ferrous iron, as it gets oxidized to ferric, helps break up a grain, even though I don&#8217;t think it binds any CO2.</p>
<p>&#8212; G.R.L. Cowan (<em><a href="http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/" rel="nofollow">How fire can be domesticated</a></em>)</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Fabos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Fabos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been doubtful of space based geoengineering proposals and suspect many proponents want massive space capability as their primary aim and are looking for good sounding reasons to get the world at large to fund it. Some may see civilisation on Earth as ultimately doomed and getting lots of people into space is about species survival - although I&#039;ve never been convinced that humanity would easily thrive in the absence of the complex, mostly natural ecosystem that is our home planet and without the complex economy of modern Earth based civilisation. Sustaining the high tech economy needed to survive independently with less than tens of millions of people and without a massive economy nearby for finance, technology and a market for the supposedly easily accessed mineral resources seems farfetched. It leaves me tending to dismiss the space mirror proposals out of hand, perhaps unfairly, just for distrusting the motivations of it&#039;s proponents. Apart from that, the sound bite versions seems to gloss over the requirement for each mirror to be powered to keep it in place and to track accurately - they can&#039;t be put in place and left to their own devices and will need repair and maintenance. Like space based solar power satellites, the cost is likely to be prohibative. Even so I think it&#039;s good to explore some visionary ideas. Some of that stuff is going to be needed, for example I admit to ongoing curiosity as to the suitability of the power transmission aspects of space solar as a backbone for a global grid. Then, I also wonder if HVDC or superconductors could successfully cross oceans as well as continents - SC cables suspended from floating platforms that house the required refrigeration? Vanadium redox undersea pipelines? Even higher voltage HVDC with even greater distances and even lower transmisson losses?

But back to geoengineering, the Earth and ocean based version - I expect it will be needed, mostly because of the heels dug in unwillingness of humanity to face AGW head on, even that proportion of humanity that takes the issue seriously. By the time it is treated with the urgent seriousness it deserves, atmospheric levels of GHG&#039;s will be much more than present and be a serious danger; the need to get them out of the atmosphere when major sinks are saturated or turning into sources as warming causes their existing load to be released.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been doubtful of space based geoengineering proposals and suspect many proponents want massive space capability as their primary aim and are looking for good sounding reasons to get the world at large to fund it. Some may see civilisation on Earth as ultimately doomed and getting lots of people into space is about species survival &#8211; although I&#8217;ve never been convinced that humanity would easily thrive in the absence of the complex, mostly natural ecosystem that is our home planet and without the complex economy of modern Earth based civilisation. Sustaining the high tech economy needed to survive independently with less than tens of millions of people and without a massive economy nearby for finance, technology and a market for the supposedly easily accessed mineral resources seems farfetched. It leaves me tending to dismiss the space mirror proposals out of hand, perhaps unfairly, just for distrusting the motivations of it&#8217;s proponents. Apart from that, the sound bite versions seems to gloss over the requirement for each mirror to be powered to keep it in place and to track accurately &#8211; they can&#8217;t be put in place and left to their own devices and will need repair and maintenance. Like space based solar power satellites, the cost is likely to be prohibative. Even so I think it&#8217;s good to explore some visionary ideas. Some of that stuff is going to be needed, for example I admit to ongoing curiosity as to the suitability of the power transmission aspects of space solar as a backbone for a global grid. Then, I also wonder if HVDC or superconductors could successfully cross oceans as well as continents &#8211; SC cables suspended from floating platforms that house the required refrigeration? Vanadium redox undersea pipelines? Even higher voltage HVDC with even greater distances and even lower transmisson losses?</p>
<p>But back to geoengineering, the Earth and ocean based version &#8211; I expect it will be needed, mostly because of the heels dug in unwillingness of humanity to face AGW head on, even that proportion of humanity that takes the issue seriously. By the time it is treated with the urgent seriousness it deserves, atmospheric levels of GHG&#8217;s will be much more than present and be a serious danger; the need to get them out of the atmosphere when major sinks are saturated or turning into sources as warming causes their existing load to be released.</p>
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		<title>By: John Mashey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mashey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/01/cnn-is-spun-right-round-baby-right-round/langswitch_lang/index.php?p=593#comment-96199&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;albedo discussion&lt;/a&gt;.

Some geoengineering wants to reduce CO2, a Good Thing.
Others want to increase albedo, to reduce heat, at least in part to lessen the bad positive feedbacks.

For the latter, I&#039;d observe that synthetic volcanoes or mirrors in orbit reduce sunlight over large amounts of the world, *including g*:

- agricultural land
- solar PV and solar thermal

I don&#039;t mind the ships that do clouds in the ocean, but I&#039;d sure rather let sunlight come at 100% in many places, and *use* more of it [for electricity or heating water or growing things], or at worst, cover unusable land with mirrors.  The post has some numbers about albedo requirements.

Put another way, I think the {sulfates, satellite} albedo-increase path is dominated by potential terrestrial solutions.  They don&#039;t reduce the CO2, but maybe they could hold off tundra melt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See <a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/01/cnn-is-spun-right-round-baby-right-round/langswitch_lang/index.php?p=593#comment-96199" rel="nofollow">albedo discussion</a>.</p>
<p>Some geoengineering wants to reduce CO2, a Good Thing.<br />
Others want to increase albedo, to reduce heat, at least in part to lessen the bad positive feedbacks.</p>
<p>For the latter, I&#8217;d observe that synthetic volcanoes or mirrors in orbit reduce sunlight over large amounts of the world, *including g*:</p>
<p>- agricultural land<br />
- solar PV and solar thermal</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind the ships that do clouds in the ocean, but I&#8217;d sure rather let sunlight come at 100% in many places, and *use* more of it [for electricity or heating water or growing things], or at worst, cover unusable land with mirrors.  The post has some numbers about albedo requirements.</p>
<p>Put another way, I think the {sulfates, satellite} albedo-increase path is dominated by potential terrestrial solutions.  They don&#8217;t reduce the CO2, but maybe they could hold off tundra melt.</p>
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		<title>By: mitchell porter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mitchell porter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[G.R.L. Cowan - what&#039;s your argument or scenario? I think of us as hitting peak CO2 in the mid-2020s, after new global temperature records in the early 2010s lead people to consciously aim at a global economy of zero net emissions, and not just reduced emissions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G.R.L. Cowan &#8211; what&#8217;s your argument or scenario? I think of us as hitting peak CO2 in the mid-2020s, after new global temperature records in the early 2010s lead people to consciously aim at a global economy of zero net emissions, and not just reduced emissions.</p>
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		<title>By: David B. Benson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David B. Benson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enhanced weathering is a geochemical scheme which is highly controllable.  The costs are such that somewhat less than 1% of the gross world product, about equal to the sum of world military budgets, would suffice to slightly more than remove all of the current (2007 CE) excess carbon dioxide added by humans.

Well, maybe slightly more.  Still working out all the costs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enhanced weathering is a geochemical scheme which is highly controllable.  The costs are such that somewhat less than 1% of the gross world product, about equal to the sum of world military budgets, would suffice to slightly more than remove all of the current (2007 CE) excess carbon dioxide added by humans.</p>
<p>Well, maybe slightly more.  Still working out all the costs.</p>
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		<title>By: G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gross emissions will decline much quicker than that (and with them, the subsidy from fossil fuel consumers to government). Net emissions, faster still. You heard it here first.


--- G.R.L. Cowan (&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How fire can be domesticated&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gross emissions will decline much quicker than that (and with them, the subsidy from fossil fuel consumers to government). Net emissions, faster still. You heard it here first.</p>
<p>&#8212; G.R.L. Cowan (<em><a href="http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/" rel="nofollow">How fire can be domesticated</a></em>)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris McGrath</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris McGrath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barry, on a related topic of emissions pathways that contemplate technologies for atmospheric carbon capture allowing for a carbon negative future, Bill Hare has a really interesting chapter in the State of the World 2009, available at http://www.worldwatch.org/stateoftheworld

He suggests getting fossil CO2 emissions down to close to zero in 2050 and being carbon negative thereafter – a commitment to action that spans centuries - to return global temperatures to beneath 1 degree Celsius warming “is plausible technically” and “goes beyond the technically and economically feasible pathways published elsewhere”.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry, on a related topic of emissions pathways that contemplate technologies for atmospheric carbon capture allowing for a carbon negative future, Bill Hare has a really interesting chapter in the State of the World 2009, available at <a href="http://www.worldwatch.org/stateoftheworld" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldwatch.org/stateoftheworld</a></p>
<p>He suggests getting fossil CO2 emissions down to close to zero in 2050 and being carbon negative thereafter – a commitment to action that spans centuries &#8211; to return global temperatures to beneath 1 degree Celsius warming “is plausible technically” and “goes beyond the technically and economically feasible pathways published elsewhere”.</p>
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		<title>By: perps</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[perps]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just had to post this link! Simple but effective? 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jan/16/white-paint-carbon-emissions-climate

Perhaps we would create more emissions producing the vast quantities of white pain needed.

&quot;Work for the dole&quot;- painting rocks white - could be useful after all - the answer to our unemployment and recession woes:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had to post this link! Simple but effective? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jan/16/white-paint-carbon-emissions-climate" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jan/16/white-paint-carbon-emissions-climate</a></p>
<p>Perhaps we would create more emissions producing the vast quantities of white pain needed.</p>
<p>&#8220;Work for the dole&#8221;- painting rocks white &#8211; could be useful after all &#8211; the answer to our unemployment and recession woes:)</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Roberts</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/01/19/ranking-geo-engineering-options-for-mitigating-climate-change-impacts/#comment-5143</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hank Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Need to add a column for ocean pH change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Need to add a column for ocean pH change.</p>
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		<title>By: G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996</title>
		<link>http://bravenewclimate.com/2009/01/19/ranking-geo-engineering-options-for-mitigating-climate-change-impacts/#comment-5130</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I distinguish SACTCAR solutions from BTRO ones. If good BTRO options exist, and they do, painstaking investigation of SACTCAR ones is idle. Guessing those acronyms is left as an exercise.

Mirrors in space are obviously SACTCAR, like sulphate aerosols. Interesting fact: one BTRO method has been demonstrated on a considerable scale &lt;a href=&quot;http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005AGUFM.B33A1014W&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;inadvertently&lt;/a&gt;. This is probably 99.9 percent of the CCS that has actually happened. 

Doing it on a gigatonne scale, &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/56eamb&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;on purpose&lt;/a&gt;, is one of the geochemical schemes that Boyd apparently considers to be hard to stop on short notice. What if it someday turns out that the project of easing the atmospheric CO2 concentration back to the preindustrial level must be brought to an emergency stop? What if, in 2025, having with much effort got the atmospheric CO2 concentration back down to 370 ppm despite China&#039;s having put up 150 gigatonnes of CO2 in the 20-teens, we then find that the CO2 level must be allowed to start rapidly rising again, like now?

Seems like a very remote possibility, and anyway, what is the difficulty with turning off a lot of rock crushers and blowers?


--- G.R.L. Cowan (&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How fire can be domesticated&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I distinguish SACTCAR solutions from BTRO ones. If good BTRO options exist, and they do, painstaking investigation of SACTCAR ones is idle. Guessing those acronyms is left as an exercise.</p>
<p>Mirrors in space are obviously SACTCAR, like sulphate aerosols. Interesting fact: one BTRO method has been demonstrated on a considerable scale <a href="http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005AGUFM.B33A1014W" rel="nofollow">inadvertently</a>. This is probably 99.9 percent of the CCS that has actually happened. </p>
<p>Doing it on a gigatonne scale, <a href="http://tinyurl.com/56eamb" rel="nofollow">on purpose</a>, is one of the geochemical schemes that Boyd apparently considers to be hard to stop on short notice. What if it someday turns out that the project of easing the atmospheric CO2 concentration back to the preindustrial level must be brought to an emergency stop? What if, in 2025, having with much effort got the atmospheric CO2 concentration back down to 370 ppm despite China&#8217;s having put up 150 gigatonnes of CO2 in the 20-teens, we then find that the CO2 level must be allowed to start rapidly rising again, like now?</p>
<p>Seems like a very remote possibility, and anyway, what is the difficulty with turning off a lot of rock crushers and blowers?</p>
<p>&#8212; G.R.L. Cowan (<em><a href="http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/" rel="nofollow">How fire can be domesticated</a></em>)</p>
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