Comments on: Is there a link between Adelaide’s heatwave and global warming?

By: Dave McRae

Dave McRae — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:50:08 +0000

CSIRO and BOM has jointly released State of the Climate report
http://www.csiro.com.au/resources/State-of-the-Climate.html

What Ms.Perps said above

By: Ms.Perps

Ms.Perps — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 10:00:19 +0000

http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/climate/change/20100105.shtml
The BOM report is certainly sobering at least to all but trenchant deniers of the science.

By: Matt

Matt — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:56:19 +0000

Came to this site because I am looking at temperature changes in Adelaide. Am thinking of moving back there after 15 years but uncertain about affects during next 20 years. My bi-annual visits have shown me many disturbing trends in low rainfall, high temperatures and stressed vegetation. This is certainly impacting my decision as I don’t want to buy a house in a place that will be a desert during my life time.

By: perps

perps — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:41:53 +0000

Troll feeding concluded!

By: JeffT

JeffT — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:55:29 +0000

And perps,
As I know you like reading my non-peered reviewed references, here’s another from that dreadful old electronic rag, Times Online UK .
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece

Please read the comments – priceless !
‘Specially the one about the Inland Revenue.
Beats “The Dog ate my homework” every time.

By: JeffT

JeffT — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:37:25 +0000

perps,
Another angle – from the US House Committee on Energy and Commerce.
This is a shortened extract on the Wegman Report, the full pdf is available.
http://tinyurl.com/yds65sb

They have the hide not to believe Michael Mann, that’s terrible isn’t it ? and after all those tries too – I’m waiting for the Mann hockeystick vers. 2011( LOL)

By: JeffT

JeffT — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:22:18 +0000

perps,
Isn’t it the only course of action?
Could they otherwise use the excuse of the “shredder ate the documents” or they had a HDD failure?
I hope they explain the vexatious attacks on Steve McIntyre and their explanations re – Mann, Bradley Hughes and Briffa and their dead wood.
And the email comments re John Daly’s death. Is this typical of climate scientists ?

By: perps

perps — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:25:07 +0000

http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2009/nov/homepagenews/CRUupdate

95% of the CRU data already released – the rest to follow.

By: perps

perps — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:02:53 +0000

UEA-CRU can’t be too worried about their data as, sensibly, they plan to release it to be dissected by deniers and climate scientists alike.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6678469/Climategate-University-of-East-Anglia-U-turn-in-climate-change-row.html

By: JeffT

JeffT — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:58:03 +0000

perps,
Something I would like to query about your 17th Nov entry:

“We are not talking about HIGH TEMPERATURES per se – we are talking about HEATWAVES – day after day of unseasonable heat which is what we are seeing now and what was predicted by the IPCC reports”.
The bit about -
“Predicted by the IPCC reports” -
Were these predictions taken from the limited sensor data in Australia? (from emails – EA-CRU)
Were these predictions made by the same people that have used selective data from massaged sources such as EA-CRU?
In light of the fact that there is now a petition on the No10.org.uk website calling for EA-CRU to be shutdown, does BNC take the same attitude as Real Climate that the CRU emails were only a blip and will go away?
Back to drought:
Were you aware that from Gov Arthur Philip’s records, that the Tank stream and others that supplied the Sydney colony, dried up between 1790 -1794, putting great hardship on the colony? (not an IPCC report)
Just cyclic perps.

By: JeffT

JeffT — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:27:34 +0000

G’day perps,
Yes I am aware that they are having the same sort of investment problem that caused the GFC.
Whether they made the wrong investments at the wrong time is irrelevant to the sea level rise argument. They probably have the same computer modelers as Lehman, Fanny Mae et al.- oh and I forgot, how silly of me (LOL) the computer modelers of the IPCC and East Anglia CRU.
No EA-CRU wasn’t just computer modelers was it? More like weather science fiction writers.
Yes perps, I also am wading through the original emails and data from EA-CRU. Not a pretty sight, with things such as the comments on the death of Australia’s John Daly.
The ultimate warmista ad hom. – applied to a deceased person. Typical!!

By: perps

perps — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:04:58 +0000

We don’t have to Google Dubai- news of its economic disaster is in all the papers with headlines such as “Alarm on Dubai debt crisis”, “Dubai heat felt around the world’,
“Castles of sand” from The Age yesterday and today. I reiterate, Jeff T, they have the same imprudent fools in Dubai as there are in the rest of the world. So do you still insist that they are such clever, astute investors? You’d be on your own if you did!

http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/nov2009/gb20091127_265938.htm?chan=rss_topStories_ssi_5

http://www.theage.com.au/business/dubai-debt-doubts-spook-markets-20091127-jx5x.html

http://www.theage.com.au/business/castles-of-sand-threaten-globe-20091127-jx5m.html

This is just a small selection of the current articles.
Here’s an idea Jeff T – why don’t YOU have a go and Google Dubai now!

By: JeffT

JeffT — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:50:00 +0000

Jeez perps,
Funny thing about the true warming believers, when they post a link to warming data such as:
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/environment/2005_warmest.html
It has to be believed, the word of God or Jim Hansen whatever. (even though it’s out of date, it’s now late 2009)

If this lil’ old bod questions the validity of that data by posting an alternative, from an authority such as Perth weather centre, for Australia and US data from the NCDC Extreme Temperature records, the true warming believer get in a tizzy, takes his bat and ball and goes home.

I’m a fence sitter, but no wonder the few climate sceptics ( from Al Gore , or was it Penny Wong?) are now turning into a flood.

Predicted by the IPCC reports?
Umm, which IPCC report, and by which of the 65 scientists wrote it into the report.
Was it AR3, with MBH98 hockey stick in it?

All those fools in Dubai, Spain and elsewhere ? (your words perps ) – they’re still building, investing all those petro-dollars wisely into their own terra-formed real estate.

I betcha didn’t go and have a Google at Dubai..

By: perps

perps — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:02:55 +0000

I will ignore all the previous rants about Nasa, Hansen etc.because they don’t deserve a reply.
We are not talking about HIGH TEMPERATURES per se – we are talking about HEATWAVES – day after day of unseasonable heat which is what we are seeing now and what was predicted by the IPCC reports.
As to all the fools in Dubai, Spain and elsewhere – would they be the same financial idiots who set us up for the Global Financial Collapse?
They didn’t see that coming either! Greed got in the way of fiscal prudency and commonsense which is exactly why they are behaving in the same way regarding injudicious planning and building despite clear eveidence that the sea level is rising and storm surges are worsening.
That’s it for me on this thread – I’ll leave you to it JeffT – enjoy!

By: JeffT

JeffT — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:23:19 +0000

G’day perps,
“Is there a link between Adelaide’s Heatwave and Global Warming ?”
In my non-expert opinion only about 1.4% of it.

Australian Temperature Records – Perth Weather Centre
Highest recorded temperature
South Australia 50.7degC Oodnadatta 2/1/1960
ACT 42.2degC Canberra 1/2/1968
NSW 50.0degC Wilcannia 11/1/1939
Tasmania 40.8degC Hobart 4/1/1976
Victoria 47.2degC Mildura 10/1/1939
WA 50.5degC Mardie 19/2/1998 <–
Only one correlates to your criteria 1998 – 2008

These extremes do not have average temperature over any period, but would they would not be just one off events.

From the US NCDC Extreme Temperature records:
National Climate Data Centre(er)

http://ggweather.com/climate/extremes_us.htm

Sorry for repeat posting, but 1:48am I was half asleep.
J.

By: JeffT

JeffT — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:18:25 +0000

Oh again perps,
Forgot to mention another development you would believe was going to be submerged under the rising tide (Rising Tide ?)

La Manga del Mar Menor in S/W Spain.
But I’m happy to report it is going well and settling in, you can buy real estate there.
After they sued Greenpeas for 27million euros for distributing literature and altered pictures showng the development flooded an devaluing their property.

As we have gotten of the subject a bit, coming back to is there a link to Adelaide heatwave and global warming. Since the DCC & W have taken charge of the BOM and it’s records, I have found that there does not appear to be any acces to historical climate records. Anything else would not be peer reviewed.

By: JeffT

JeffT — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:57:56 +0000

And perps,
On James Hansen, another place I have seen him interviewed was on – wait for it – Supreme Master TV, our cult lady Ching Hai.
Very credible?????, how desparate can you be for an audience? But I believe she pays well for an interview.

By: JeffT

JeffT — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:48:58 +0000

Ah perps,
Your link to the ABC News RAFLMAO
Sorry couldn’t help myself, such a funny link
The ABC hasn’t been the the people’s ABC since David Hill was in the saddle.
Currently I believe it stands for Australian Bolshevik Collective. Maybe – Always Biased Commentary would suffice.
You might as well get Al Gore to supply the news feed.

Your link NASA shows input to the discredited Dr James Hansen. Very believable – NOT.
Every 10 years he predicts dire consequences, and ten years later when it doesn’t happen, he adds another ten years. Like just recently he had an anniversary of his predictions. I watched the Youtube – peer reviewed of course.
If we had listened to Hansen 20 years ago we’d now be under 20m of sea water. Glug, I too live o the coast.

By: JeffT

JeffT — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:33:08 +0000

And perps,
I don’t take money from oil companies (they take money from me)
I haven’t seen piece of coal for years, and I agree with Barry B. about nuclear power.
I am strictly against windmills (wind turbine power gen)
as I would like to see our birdlife protected from destruction.
I use solar for hotwater.
I am converting my lighting to LED and solar PV for lighting only.
But it is for energy conservation not CO2 reduction.

By: JeffT

JeffT — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:22:59 +0000

G’day perps,
The five hottest years- over what time scale, and where? Death Valley doesn’t count.
If your talking about the US, it ahs been acknowledged that 1934 was the hottest year – the dustbowl years. Probably by NOAA ? (from memory)
Next thing you’ll be telling us is you believe MBH98. (Yes I have seen Barry’s funny ha,ha, on McIntyre and Mckitirick.) But I notice that it was pulled from IPCC AR4.
There are other references to cyclic and 1920-30 period to do with Jakobshavn, that are not from a “right wing denialist site”. But you won’t accept ANY contrary report.
Stating the obvious, of course it’s GOING into winter in the N.Hemisphere, and the sea ice is increasing, and will increase until at least mid March, and it is ahead of the few previous years since the low ice period.
And you will counter with why the low ice cover?
Watch the animation of the 1998 -2008 and see what happened to the sea ice, Each year as the thaw happened, you could see the sea ice move away from the Bering Sea and drift toward the eastern coast of Greenland. The Russian floating polar weather station NP36 also followed this flow. More likely warm N Pacific currents flowing up through Bering.
And your opinion on Dubai? Do you think that you are qualified to make that off-handed judgement. As I stated, the Arabs aren’t stupid, especially with money.
As I have posted before here, peer review=old boys network. If you’d like peer review, I do have some Russian peer reviewed work I can site, but this isn’t about competition is it? The link to CO2 Science showed PICTURES – peer review??? Don’t think so.
“it just makes you look even more stupid and desperate.” does not become you perps, in fact it looks like your desperate, verging on an ad hom.attack.